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@Acornewell ~ I feel your pain! I'm so sorry for your Silkies and for what you are going through. Although you're dealing with cocci, this info below may help. When you receive your necropsy results, don't hesitate to email them with questions. They are very responsive and helpful.

I received this email today from Purdue's Animal Disease Diagnostic Laboratory as a reply to my continuing questions:

Dear Julie

Mycoplasma or chronic respiratory disease, is very common in backyard flocks and birds can harbor the bacteria without showing clinical signs. They tend to show signs during periods of stress. IF it is MG, the bacteria can never really be completely removed from the birds (it just hangs around in the sinuses and respiratory tract), but it is treatable with antibiotics (tylan is the treatment of choice). Unless you are selling hatching eggs or plan on trading the birds with others (making it possible to spread to other flocks) I would not worry overly much unless other birds begin to show signs.

In terms of deworming with wazine first, that was a suggestion I read in one of the PDF’s you had attached in a previous e-mail. (I told him that my vet suggested wazine, but I didn't say that my vet suggested using it before another product. However, I'll use the goat safeguard as he (Purdue) recommended.

In terms of Marek’s disease, no we did not find any on histopathology (which is needed to confirm Marek’s) that indicated Marek’s disease. Most backyard and commercial flocks actually likely have Marek’s disease on the premise, but it is very variable if birds will develop signs. The vaccine prevents tumors from forming but does not prevent viral infection. Therefore the best thing to do as you mentioned is keep practicing good biosecurity and ALWAYS purchase vaccinated chicks, or vaccinate your own birds.

Periodic clean outs of the coop and disinfection is always a good idea (especially routine cleaning and disinfection of feeders and waterers). Pebble (pea gravel) should be a fine substrate as long as they still have “comfy” areas to go to as well. If you have any large/heavy breeds/birds I would keep an eye on their feet for bumble foot.

For deworming we generally don’t recommend a routine “deworm” everybody approach. We recommend getting fecal samples checked (either by your local vet or here at the lab) to see what parasites are there, and that way we can use targeted deworming instead of going for a shotgun approach which contributes to medication resistance in the parasites.

Please let me know if you have any other questions.
Sincerely,
Geoffrey Lossie
 
Disinfectant

And he just responded to my last question that I asked:

When the preliminary report suspected Marek's, I purchased Virkon S because a friend whose flock had Marek's a couple of years ago said that your office recommended it. Is it okay to use for periodic disinfecting of the coop or is there a better product for general disinfecting?

Virkon is a great disinfectant, and there should be no problem using it, just make sure to follow directions for cleaning and make sure the product is no longer active/thouroughly rinsed before you place birds back into those cleaned areas. The only downside is that it might be a little more expensive if you use it frequently compared to a product like bleach.

Geoff Lossie
 
went to get chicken feed today, & this little rascal jumped into my car while i wasnt looking :

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Today has been extremely rough! Despite the blizzard, woke up to find my 9 month old Great Dane puppy dead in his crate early this morning. Yesterday he was totally fine, happy go lucky, running playing, fetching, and just being ornery puppy self. As much as I was against getting a Great Dane cause of his size I fell in love with him! When we got him I was hoping he would get attached to my fiancé, but instead he only wanted me which made me love him even more! As much as he drove me crazy with his chewing, accidents in the house, getting up in the middle of the night to let him out, chasing the chickens from time to time, and not listening most of the time, he was a good pup! I have never had to deal with taking care of a dead dog like that. Most of my dogs that I had living on a farm they ran off to die, only one dog my dad had to take to the vet to have put down and I was away at college and that was hard for me. But nothing like today! My heart is broken!
This is Diesel, the day we got him!
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My 9 month guard dog looking out the window!
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I sell a dozen of mixed egg colors, medium to large size eggs, for $3.50. (You'd be surprised how many people ask if I colored the blue and green eggs!!) I too use recycled egg cartons; just put a new collection date on them.

Right now our family consists of a little red hen (large brown egg), two EEs (one lays a green egg, one lays a blue), and a Wheaten? Ameraucana (blue egg). An Ameraucana roo is here because he's so handsome and gentlemanly. They came from a local farm as youngsters and were all raised together.
There's a coop for Delaware chickens, and another for Blue/Black/Splash Ameraucanas. So that leaves one empty coop; still trying to decide what will live there
 
Today has been extremely rough! Despite the blizzard, woke up to find my 9 month old Great Dane puppy dead in his crate early this morning. Yesterday he was totally fine, happy go lucky, running playing, fetching, and just being ornery puppy self. As much as I was against getting a Great Dane cause of his size I fell in love with him! When we got him I was hoping he would get attached to my fiancé, but instead he only wanted me which made me love him even more! As much as he drove me crazy with his chewing, accidents in the house, getting up in the middle of the night to let him out, chasing the chickens from time to time, and not listening most of the time, he was a good pup! I have never had to deal with taking care of a dead dog like that. Most of my dogs that I had living on a farm they ran off to die, only one dog my dad had to take to the vet to have put down and I was away at college and that was hard for me. But nothing like today! My heart is broken!
This is Diesel, the day we got him!

My 9 month guard dog looking out the window!
So sorry for your loss!
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He was beautiful. I hope you find out what happened to him.
 
For deworming we generally don’t recommend a routine “deworm” everybody approach. We recommend getting fecal samples checked (either by your local vet or here at the lab) to see what parasites are there, and that way we can use targeted deworming instead of going for a shotgun approach which contributes to medication resistance in the parasites.

Please let me know if you have any other questions.
Sincerely,
Geoffrey Lossie
I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE. THANK YOU DR. LOSSIE.
 

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