Inflamed eye

[ChickenCrazy25]

I have a picture saved on my iPad. How do you post pics in a thread?

 

[aoxa]

I have a picture saved on my iPad. How do you post pics in a thread?

You can't without the tapatalk ap, and that costs $.

Why don't you email it to me, and I'll post.

 

[ChickenCrazy25]

Ok! I just sent it. Thank you!

 

[aoxa]

Ok! I just sent it. Thank you!

That does look different from Honey's eye, and is looking like Harriet's eye when it fist started. Took her to the vet. It's a benign something or other, and does not grow, but she is blind.

All I can say is keep it clean and monitor the condition.

 

[ChickenCrazy25]

Thank you aoxa. That sounds better than a disease, or "she's gonna die!" could I flush it out with an Epsom salt solution? And what about applying neosporin to the area? I'll certainly start adding ACV to the water. I can tell you, her vision doesn't seem to be impaired. That bird avoids me like the plague. I needed to catch her with a net to get this picture, she even avoids the camera if I'm not holding her down!

 

[aoxa]

Thank you aoxa. That sounds better than a disease, or "she's gonna die!" could I flush it out with an Epsom salt solution? And what about applying neosporin to the area? I'll certainly start adding ACV to the water. I can tell you, her vision doesn't seem to be impaired. That bird avoids me like the plague. I needed to catch her with a net to get this picture, she even avoids the camera if I'm not holding her down!

That's a good thing.

Use saline solution to clean out her eye. I'm sure there is a recipe somewhere for homemade saline solution. Add neosporin (without pain reliever) to her eye. It should help prevent infection.

 

[cowcreekgeek]

Add ACV every time for as long as you keep chickens, not just 3 days. I always have ACV (unpasturized, unfiltered, and with mother) in their water AND food. I ferment their food for optimal health.
Also increasing the PH in their system also is said to increase chances of hatching more female chicks. I'm going to be testing this out

Wondering if you meant to say lowering the pH (as 7 in neutral, lower is acidic, and higher is alkaline), and what system pH the target might be?

Researchers at England's Manchester University and Scottish Agricultural College claim they can increase the number of female chicks hatched in incubators by changing the sex of some male embryos. They reduce the incubator temperature for short periods during the first three days of incubation. (Temperatures and times were not given.)

Also see an article w/in Mother Earth News (although it's about finches):
Feeding Sorghum Seed to Poultry May Result in More Females Per Hatch

As to the ACV? I've done *tons* of research, so as to document my other claims of it's many benefits, but can provide no proof of my practice or cycling, beyond the fact that the primary benefits I'm hoping for are acheived w/in those first three days, and that returning to a more normal state for no more than those next few days does not allow any significant increase of mucus, or enough time for internal parasites to gain any traction. My theory, in defending this practice, is that it encourages the birds' systems to more naturally respond to their environment.

Also, you might wanna edit this post, so as to protect your email inbox from spam/UCErs (usin' PM for that sorta info would be best ~'-)

 

[aoxa]

Wondering if you meant to say lowering the pH (as 7 in neutral, lower is acidic, and higher is alkaline), and what system pH the target might be?


Researchers at England's Manchester University and Scottish Agricultural College claim they can increase the number of female chicks hatched in incubators by changing the sex of some male embryos. They reduce the incubator temperature for short periods during the first three days of incubation. (Temperatures and times were not given.)


Also see an article w/in Mother Earth News (although it's about finches):
Feeding Sorghum Seed to Poultry May Result in More Females Per Hatch


As to the ACV? I've done *tons* of research, so as to document my other claims of it's many benefits, but can provide no proof of my practice or cycling, beyond the fact that the primary benefits I'm hoping for are acheived w/in those first three days, and that returning to a more normal state for no more than those next few days does not allow any significant increase of mucus, or enough time for internal parasites to gain any traction. My theory, in defending this practice, is that it encourages the birds' systems to more naturally respond to their environment.

Also, you might wanna edit this post, so as to protect your email inbox from spam/UCErs (usin' PM for that sorta info would be best ~'-)

I'm speaking from Beekissed's research.

Bee’s Answer:

All birds have coccidiosis present in their bowels.... they don’t become symptomatic of coccidiosis unless they develop an overgrowth of the cocci.

How do you prevent an overgrowth of cocci? Creating balance in the chicken, in the coop (see our Deep Litter Page) and in the surrounding soils is the first step. Doing one without the other is kind of useless as they will just get imbalanced again as the chicken moves between environments.

Providing healthy gut flora will eventually inhibit the overgrowth of things like cocci, e.coli, salmonella, etc.

One of the best means of helping your flock develop healthy gut flora is the use of unpasteurized apple cider vinegar (U-ACV) in their water. Combine that with feeding your flock fermented feed (see our FF Page) and you have a winning combination.


It doesn't really matter how much ACV you put in their water... whatever amount your birds will tolerate. I never measure... I just tip the jug, allow a glug to flow and that's it. One glug for more water, a little glurp for little waterers. The thing is, it doesn't take much unpasteurized ACV to make a difference and any is better than none. You just don't want to put so much that they won't drink the water or you see their beaks dissolve when they dip for a drink! Just kidding.... that won't happen.

The following information – research describing why ACV is so good for the bowels - is from a very good site that you can find by clicking HERE.

Quote:
“Pediococcus acidilactici (the stuff in unpasteurized ACV) can function as immune modulators. Animals fed with P. acidilactici have shown enhanced immune responses against infectious coccidioidal diseases.

(Translation: Animals that are fed unpasteurized ACV are healthier and don’t get sick as easily as animals that don’t get U-ACV)

“Pediococcus acidilactici is also known to prevent colonization of the small intestine by pathogens like Shigella, Salmonella, Clostridium difficile and Escherichia coli among small animals.

(Translation: those scary-sounding diseases listed above don’t like that magic stuff in U-ACV and don’t grow well in animals that are fed U-ACV.)

“Pediococcus acidilactici has not been stated in any literature to have toxic effects. Another potential benefit of using them as Probiotics is their use as alternative medicines against infectious parasitic pathogens like Eimeria in broiler-chicken.”

(Translation: The magic stuff in U-ACV isn’t poisonous and won’t hurt your chickens. U-ACV is used to keep commercial broiler-chickens healthy… before they are broiled, of course.)


Quote:
“Eimeria, genus of parasitic protozoans of the spore-producing phylum Apicomplexa (previously Sporozoa). Eimeria, which causes coccidiosis in livestock and wild animals, infects mainly the cells of the digestive tract, although it also attacks cells of the liver and the bile duct. Symptoms of infection are diarrhea, weight loss, and general weakness. Eimeria is characterized by spore cases that contain four spores, each with two infective sporozoites. Among the common pathogenic species are E. necatrix and E. tenella (in poultry); E. stiedae (in rabbits); and E. bovis, E. ellipsoidalis, and E. zuernii (in cattle).”

(Translation: The thing that causes coccidiosis is a tiny little thing that mostly lives in the cells of an animal’s digestive tract, but it can also be in the cells of the liver and bile duct. If too much of those little things grow in an animal, the animal will "get" coccidiosis and may have bloody diarrhea, may lose weight and may be weak.)


As you can see (provided you know how to translate “Scientific”) is that cocci doesn’t like unpasteurized apple cider vinegar and won’t grow well inside animals that are fed U-ACV.

Pretty cool, huh?


- And for those of you who tend to fret over poo, HERE is a wonderful (and very graphic) page of what you do and don't want to see on your coop floor. Perhaps it will help put your mind at ease... and you can quit being all up in your chicken's... ahem... stuff.

 

[ChickenCrazy25]

You all have been wonderful and so helpful. Thank you SO much! It's nice to feel encouraged. Aoxa I am grateful you shared your address with me so I could send you that picture. I've only had my flock since May, so I'm still pretty new. And I love my flock so much that every little thing I notice scares the hell out of me! And I notice *everything* to the point of paranoia Again, I greatly appreciate your assistance everybody!

 

[aoxa]

You all have been wonderful and so helpful. Thank you SO much! It's nice to feel encouraged. Aoxa I am grateful you shared your address with me so I could send you that picture. I've only had my flock since May, so I'm still pretty new. And I love my flock so much that every little thing I notice scares the hell out of me! And I notice *everything* to the point of paranoia Again, I greatly appreciate your assistance everybody!

We are the same in that way

I'm glad I notice things.. Even a little bit off sends me into a panic. Wait until you experience your first molt