Internal pipping to external pip time peafowl egg

[AngryRWH]

I am hatching peafowl eggs and cannot find accurate info on how long from internal to external pip. I have spent 6 hrs reading this group threads, I still have no clue. Some write 6 hrs , 8, 12, 24 or more. Others write that chick dies after 8 hours after internal pip if it doesn't break outa shell. I wonder now if people just repeat misinformation they read/hear. Please I need an expert to advise me!
Peafowl egg day 25 internal pip 24 hrs ago , clear loud tap tap tap egg moved about. At that time 24 hrs ago, I placed into another forced air havabator 99.8F @ 75% humidity. Now 24 hrs later I see no movement of egg. No external pip . egg is placed in the air cell proper hatch position. Can I open to check egg? some say never open on last 3 days. some one PLEASE HELP !!!!

 

[DylansMom]

I am hatching peafowl eggs and cannot find accurate info on how long from internal to external pip. I have spent 6 hrs reading this group threads, I still have no clue. Some write 6 hrs , 8, 12, 24 or more. Others write that chick dies after 8 hours after internal pip if it doesn't break outa shell. I wonder now if people just repeat misinformation they read/hear. Please I need an expert to advise me!
Peafowl egg day 25 internal pip 24 hrs ago , clear loud tap tap tap egg moved about. At that time 24 hrs ago, I placed into another forced air havabator 99.8F @ 75% humidity. Now 24 hrs later I see no movement of egg. No external pip . egg is placed in the air cell proper hatch position. Can I open to check egg? some say never open on last 3 days. some one PLEASE HELP !!!!

I have found they have about 24 hrs of oxygen in the air space to get them thru from internal to external pip. I pull mine out all the time, in my opinion lockdown is a myth. I put extra moistened paper towels in the hatcher and this gets the humidity back up to the 80-90% range in no time. I like to see an internal pip with chirping, turn into an external pip in 24 hrs. if it doesn't I put in my own air hole and that gives them another 24 hrs. If they haven't started to unzip after that 24 hour period, I start assisting with some peeling. Always stopping if I see any fresh blood. Deep breaths and keep calm, you can do this, we all started out the same.

 

[barkerg]

Probably not the best pics but, see that "X"? I candle the eggs prior to moving into the hatcher, I find the lowest point in the air sac and move about 1/4" to the left of the lowest point and mark an X. The reason I do this is to ensure the chick stays oriented in the egg as it can roll from other chicks hatching and it is fun to see just how close I can get to the actual pip, after I mark it I make sure the x stays in the up position at all times. I call it the sweet spot and it takes time to figure it out but, can and will help your chicks to hatch without assistance. Always remember that all fowl (I might be wrong on the "all" someone jump in here and correct me if so) will pip and unzip counter clockwise. I have never seen or heard of any common "yard birds" that went the opposite. I hope this helps.

Gerald Barker

 

[AngryRWH]

I candled w flashlight hard to see through the dark shell. I saw it moving around but the air sack does not look dropped for external pip. Pencil line on the egg in picture.

I hear no sound from egg I still see blood vessels as in my drawing attached. I have only hatched quail eggs abandoned in my yard. Those all internally chirped always prior to external pip. I am hoping the egg is fine because the peababy egg has movement of the chicks inside.

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[AngryRWH]

I have found they have about 24 hrs of oxygen in the air space to get them thru from internal to external pip. I pull mine out all the time, in my opinion lockdown is a myth. I put extra moistened paper towels in the hatcher and this gets the humidity back up to the 80-90% range in no time. I like to see an internal pip with chirping, turn into an external pip in 24 hrs. if it doesn't I put in my own air hole and that gives them another 24 hrs. If they haven't started to unzip after that 24 hour period, I start assisting with some peeling. Always stopping if I see any fresh blood. Deep breaths and keep calm, you can do this, we all started out the same.

Probably not the best pics but, see that "X"? I candle the eggs prior to moving into the hatcher, I find the lowest point in the air sac and move about 1/4" to the left of the lowest point and mark an X. The reason I do this is to ensure the chick stays oriented in the egg as it can roll from other chicks hatching and it is fun to see just how close I can get to the actual pip, after I mark it I make sure the x stays in the up position at all times. I call it the sweet spot and it takes time to figure it out but, can and will help your chicks to hatch without assistance. Always remember that all fowl (I might be wrong on the "all" someone jump in here and correct me if so) will pip and unzip counter clockwise. I have never seen or heard of any common "yard birds" that went the opposite. I hope this helps. Gerald Barker

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[AngryRWH]

Thanks for the info !!!!

 

[barkerg]

Thanks for the info !!!!

You will ba amazed at how fast that sac and the positioning changes in just a few hours. Birds are so impressive and we can only enjoy what they let us in on in their little world. Mother nature is truly fantastic,

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Gerald Barker

 

[AngryRWH]

You will ba amazed at how fast that sac and the positioning changes in just a few hours. Birds are so impressive and we can only enjoy what they let us in on in their little world. Mother nature is truly fantastic,

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Gerald Barker

just saw your facebook, beautiful pure greens WOW! I just visited Solado , wish I could have talked you into selling me a green!. I noticed some whites in your pen are you trying to create a spalding white?

 

[barkerg]

just saw your facebook, beautiful pure greens WOW! I just visited Solado , wish I could have talked you into selling me a green!. I noticed some whites in your pen are you trying to create a spalding white?  

Thank you! We've got a couple of spalding whites running around here we are trimming the india blue fat and going totally green eventually. Stop by and visit next time your near us.

Gerald Barker

 

[Cerise1924]

I have found they have about 24 hrs of oxygen in the air space to get them thru from internal to external pip. I pull mine out all the time, in my opinion lockdown is a myth. I put extra moistened paper towels in the hatcher and this gets the humidity back up to the 80-90% range in no time. I like to see an internal pip with chirping, turn into an external pip in 24 hrs. if it doesn't I put in my own air hole and that gives them another 24 hrs. If they haven't started to unzip after that 24 hour period, I start assisting with some peeling. Always stopping if I see any fresh blood. Deep breaths and keep calm, you can do this, we all started out the same.

Thank you, DylansMom, that was a really encouraging and helpful post. I came to this thread with my first-ever incubation in lockdown. One pea egg was peeping last night, but still not pipping this morning, and I got anxious. I took a deep breath and a walk, and now we have a pip from the pea!

Nothing from the other five eggs, though...

Also good to know that 80% humidity is ok for lockdown. I have one hygrometer reading 70 and another reading 90, so I figure I am somewhere in between.