Hi Curt
I was on the road most of the day yesterday, and in bed at 8,
I have ONE Iowa Blue chick from Kari's eggs, and one pipped but didnt make it out, I am slowly hydrating and helping an Icelandic still in the hatcher, its the last survivor, 7 chicks out of 41 incubated. I am crediting the power outage, these that survived are real surv ivors.
The IB chick is a beautiful silver penciled black already ! A beauty.
REF the hatchery in NY, he is full of BS, the mention of attorneys is proof, any attorney would say out up front and bluntly that what he is saying is impossible to enforce or demand. You canNOT patent DNA, the SCOTUS just ruled, again, on that.
I would avoid this character like the poison he is.
There was a guy name of Perry Green that did essentially the same thing with a dog sled breed, the one that went to Antartica with Cmdr Perry, I knew one of his drivers, Norm Vaughn, who also entered the Iditarod at age 84. Great guy. Anyhow, Green put all kinds of restrictions on including forbidding dogs used for stud, and he wouldnot sell females, so he tried to control all of the DNA of the Chinook breed. It almost died out, but, when he died a literal handful of owners did rescue the breed. Unfortunately only a tiny proportion are mushers, most just pet owners. But the breed does exist.
You gave the exact right answers to this guy Curt, exactly right. Let him hang onto his collection of unknowns. My bet is that his birds are nowheres near as pure as he alleges. The whole thing stinks to me. The onus is on him to prove his birds are what he says, and to me the only proof that he could offer is DNA tests by two reputable labs, of our choosing. Otherwise, consider him a con artist. And not a very bright one at that.
A couple breeders of import Horse breeds, two that I know of are doing the same thing, the Irish Traveler, used in years gone by by the literal Irish travelers are doing this now, its also known as the Irish Cobb. They are making real big bucks on people who are suckering in to the sales pitch. So the profiteers are dooming the breed in the US to make their bucks, but it will never be well known because of the prices being had.
The folks right here on this thread are the ones that have credibility with me. All others are out of the loop until they prove their bona fides. Join the breed club, and work within it.
Enjoy all.
I was on the road most of the day yesterday, and in bed at 8,
I have ONE Iowa Blue chick from Kari's eggs, and one pipped but didnt make it out, I am slowly hydrating and helping an Icelandic still in the hatcher, its the last survivor, 7 chicks out of 41 incubated. I am crediting the power outage, these that survived are real surv ivors.
The IB chick is a beautiful silver penciled black already ! A beauty.
REF the hatchery in NY, he is full of BS, the mention of attorneys is proof, any attorney would say out up front and bluntly that what he is saying is impossible to enforce or demand. You canNOT patent DNA, the SCOTUS just ruled, again, on that.
I would avoid this character like the poison he is.
There was a guy name of Perry Green that did essentially the same thing with a dog sled breed, the one that went to Antartica with Cmdr Perry, I knew one of his drivers, Norm Vaughn, who also entered the Iditarod at age 84. Great guy. Anyhow, Green put all kinds of restrictions on including forbidding dogs used for stud, and he wouldnot sell females, so he tried to control all of the DNA of the Chinook breed. It almost died out, but, when he died a literal handful of owners did rescue the breed. Unfortunately only a tiny proportion are mushers, most just pet owners. But the breed does exist.
You gave the exact right answers to this guy Curt, exactly right. Let him hang onto his collection of unknowns. My bet is that his birds are nowheres near as pure as he alleges. The whole thing stinks to me. The onus is on him to prove his birds are what he says, and to me the only proof that he could offer is DNA tests by two reputable labs, of our choosing. Otherwise, consider him a con artist. And not a very bright one at that.
A couple breeders of import Horse breeds, two that I know of are doing the same thing, the Irish Traveler, used in years gone by by the literal Irish travelers are doing this now, its also known as the Irish Cobb. They are making real big bucks on people who are suckering in to the sales pitch. So the profiteers are dooming the breed in the US to make their bucks, but it will never be well known because of the prices being had.
The folks right here on this thread are the ones that have credibility with me. All others are out of the loop until they prove their bona fides. Join the breed club, and work within it.
Enjoy all.
