Iowa Blues - Breed thread and discussion

The chicks that are black with yellow will be birchen. The chicks that are brown with stripes/mottling will be silver penciled. If you got a yellow chick with stripes, that is likely a silver duckwing like Kari has hatched. The below photos show the difference:

Birchen Chicks (can have varying amounts of yellow on face/wings)

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Silver Penciled Chick
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Silver Duckwing Chicks (Photo from this thread, by KariMW)
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In regards to the really dark hens, that's what I started with as well. I found the really dark ones are typically gold instead of silver. That being said, if you breed them to a silver rooster, the pullets from that cross should be much improved. That's what I've found, anyway. You can work towards the pretty lacing from there, by selection, or you can add in "better blood" where someone has done some of the work for you to fast track it. If you see the scant pencilings on the necks of your hens are more beigey/yellowy instead of white, they're gold. If the rooster develops gold in the hackles/saddle with age, he's likely not pure for silver (it's a sex-linked trait, silver turns the reds to white for the most part, males have two genes for gold or silver, the hens only one - opposite of mammals for sex genes) but likely carries silver. If bred to the dark girls in that case, you would expect half gold, half unpure silver cockerels and half gold, half silver pullets. If you then bred the silver pullets back to an unpure cockerel, you'd get half silver cockerels and pullets, half gold pullets and unpure silver cockerels. From that generation, take the silver cockerels to the silver pullets and you'll have eliminated the gold and the lacing/pretty white will be much better.

Silver penciled pattern is a different E locus (underlying base pattern type) than birchen. Silver Penciled is based on e^b - Brown which turns the bird partridge with the pattern gene also present. Birchen is based on E^R - Extended Black Restricted which leads to the mostly black bird with "leakage" of color on the head/neck in pullets and head/hackles/saddle of cockerels. Brown/partridge is recessive to birchen, so it's possible that it can pop out of birchen birds if both the male and female carry it. Otherwise you'll need to obtain a bird to bring the gene into your breeding flock. Once you have silver pencilled birds, however they should breed true unless you have other genes in there recessive to the brown (e^b).

Other genes in the mix that we commonly deal with:

Silver Duckwing is there in the lines - this is yet another E gene, the wild type (e^+). These are your yellow striped chicks. The pullets develop salmon breasts at maturity and overall seem to be a little lighter. (The males of all of these colors end up looking fairly similar at maturity, so mark your chicks young.)

Autosomal red (the deep rusty red sometimes seen in the wings/shoulders) is in the lines, genetics still being argued about but believed to be a dominant single gene.

Leg color - the standard calls for willow legs which is yellow legs plus an overlaying of dark dermal pigment. Absence of the yellow leg gene gives you slate legs (white with overlaying of dark dermal pigment). Absence of dermal pigment gives you yellow or white legs. Yellow is recessive to white. Dark dermal pigment is recessive to lack of pigment, and to throw a wrench in the works, is also a sex-linked trait. Think of the legs as two layers, the lower base layer of the skin and shanks can be white or yellow. The outer skin can be light or pigmented. Each is controlled by a separate gene. These can also be influenced by other genes, more found here: http://www.genetics.org/content/20/6/529.full.pdf which was the original research on shank color. More recent page with photos/examples here: http://scratchcradle.wordpress.com/2012/09/02/gms10-skin-and-shank-color/

Wow, that is great information!! I have a lot to learn. I'll try to mark which is which. I just assumed that the chicks that hatched where a mix. The lady I got them from said that a different aggressive rooster had gotten to them. Which is why they are missing some feathers on their backs. Thankfully the feathers are slowly growing back. Their shells where very thin at first too, and now they seem stronger. I don't think these birds were in the best of shape. I love the look of my rooster, but he's missing some toe nails. My hubster thinks maybe frostbitten?? I'll have a lot to learn going into winter months. We've only had chickens since March (living in a rubbermaid tote first, then out in the coop once we moved to the country). Thanks again for all the information.
 
The IBCC website has been updated, nice rush of new members from the recent article, updated the standard to add the revisions from the last meeting, added some more educational material.

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Here is the PDF of the current standard: Iowa Blue Standard - 07/13/2013 Revision



Now to get it revised in the book, the archives, etc. etc. LOL I need a one touch button for them all.
 
I have read and reread the article, some good stuff there, I think it will reach a lot of folks that we wont through here. Two great resources, BYC and Backyard Poultry Magazine.
 
I had a fantastic Iowa Blue weekend!!!

Saturday was kicked off by heading to Glen Drowns place to talk Iowa Blues with him and I see his flock up close. While his breeder flock is small, he is building up his numbers to make this breed easier to access next year for his customers. Two things that really caught me off gaurd.....1) They were HUGE! His cockbirds weighed a little over 10 pounds and his hens were 7.5-8.5 pounds! Incredable size!! 2) He has a hen that looks like W.C. Fenton's hen his the newspaper clip. Very white front half, darker back half. I was thrilled to see her in his pen! I'd never seen one in person before that possessed that coloration! I also saw that some of his young stock possessed this coloration as well. Glen also shared a deep desire to select his breeding pen to our Silver Penciled standard as proposed. He wants to get himself lined up with the club. That was great to hear.

Sunday started out early to make a trip to Dennis Johnson's flock on the opposite end of the state. He obtained his stock from Glen last year and so I was excited to see what his birds looked like. I was pleasantly surprized! His birds were even bigger than Glens. 9 pound hens and 11 pound cockbirds were not out of the question here! He had a couple of nice (and very large) SP cockbirds! Also, he has a hen that looks like W.C. Fenton's hen with the very white front half. Also, he had a young trio (one cockerel and two pullets) that were born a chocolate color that he sent home with me to work with. Super excited as I haven't hatched out any chocolate chicks that were pullets, everything I have is a cockerel. Fun experimental breeding lies ahead! I also brought back some chicks and another young cockerel that is very white on his front ( I suspect he is like the light colored Fenton hens........time will tell). Dennis was a fantastic guy to talk to and I enjoyed my time with him immensely!

So, what did I learn from all of this? A few things. Firstly, that our birds can obtain a much larger size than we previously thought. And they are very majestic in their size. Interestingly enough, they still maintained their aggresive breeding and hawk fighting characteristics even though they were so large. Generally one thinks of things getting gradually more docile as they get larger. This was not the case with either flock. Second, there are many color variations that are coming out. What's exciting is all of these variations were known to exist within the breed at one time but hadn't shown up until now. The club will have further work cut out. We have a standard for the Silver Penciled and the Birchen. We know that the Silver Penciled was the original color type, but that many others existed alongside the Silver Penciled. The club will have to decide whether to select for or against this other types. With the breed so low in numbers, one would be inclined to stick to the two types already recognized, and perfect those. And I think we need to keep a strong focus on those. On the flip side, each of these colorations outside of the two recognized colors are unique to chickendom and are only found within the Iowa Blue. What I find truely amazing about this breed is that even colorations that are within certain "families" (ex. Silver Penciled and Birchen), they vary greatly from what the typical coloration is for that family. Just compare our Silver Penciled Iowa Blue to Silver Penciled Rocks for instance. They are VERY different and unique. So too are these other off colorations. I plan on working with these colorations as side projects to my Silver Penciled breeding in order to help discover what's happening geneticly with these interesting variations. Below are some of the variations that I'll be working on (keep in mind that some of these types don't have a color designation, we'll have to come up with something to describe them) -

Silver Duckwing
The Penciled Birchen (Chocolate Colored Chicks ( I now have 2 pullets and 4 cockerels to make breedings with) which are born with chick down signifying them on the ER base, but are developing with a unique penciled pattern. Especially on the pullets, however I do have a cockerel with this heavy penciling as well).
The White Duckwing colored hens like Fenton's old stock

If anyone has an interest in working with these additional variations as side projects, please reach out to me. The numbers are VERY low, so only dedicated individuals please. I don't have any to offer right now, but by next spring I should have some of each of these variations to set up some nice satellite flocks.
 

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