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Sorry, I need a scanner, but here's a rough copy of the article (IB section only).

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Iowa Blue exerpt from “Poultry Playoff” by Abby Trip Heverin in Hobby Farms Magazine; March/April 2013, pp. 34-42.

The Midwest
IOWA BLUE Midwestern through and through, this once-borderline-extinct breed is enjoying a resurgence. Developed in the early 20th century near Decorah, Iowa, the Iowa Blue established itself as a dual-purpose breed with excellent foraging capabilities. Iowa Blues were carried by several Iowa hatcheries through the mid-century, but the breed nearly disappeared when the hatcheries went out of business. Ken Whealy, of Decorah-based Seed Savers Exchange, rescued the breed from a few remaining flocks, and a handful of breeders have been working since the 1980s to preserve the breed. The 2012 formation of the Iowa Blue Chicken Club (www.iowabluechickenclub.com
) marked a significant step toward promoting the breed, compiling an official standard and campaigning for APA recognition.
Connie Hurley, secretary and treasurer of the IBCC, began raising Iowa Blues on her southern-Wisconsin farm in 2011. “I have a soft spot for Iowa Blues, being a born-and-bred Iowa farm girl,” she explains. “I find their personalities and strengths in line with my Iowa upbringing. These birds are tough and temperature-resistant, doing well in the heat and humidity of our summers and frigid cold of our winters.”
Iowa Blue hens lay a good number of tinted cream to light-brown, medium to large eggs. Although they tend to be broody, IBCC president Jim Heinz says their consistency helps offset this. “My hens have laid eggs when my other breeds have stopped laying [due to cold weather],” he reports. Iowa Blue owners also praise the breed’s maternal habits.
In addition to being excellent foragers and pet-control champs, Iowa Blues have a knack for self defense. “I have witnessed two occasions of hens successfully fighting off hawk attacks,” reports IBCC vice president Kari McKay-Widdel. “I’ve seen both hens and roosters fight off potential predators, such as cats and opossums,” Hurley adds.
The Iowa Blue boasts an upright carriage and a medium-length, well-spread tail carried at a 70-degree angle. Its comb is medium-sized and bright red, with five to six well-defined points; its face, wattles and ear-lobes are also bright red. The IBCC currently includes two colorations in its preliminary standard: Birchen and Silver Penciled. Iowa Blue roosters and hens weight 7 and 5 pounds, respectively.
The breed is currently categorized in the ALBC Conservation Priority List’s Study category, which includes breeds that are of interest but lack genetic or historical documentation or definition.
 
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Ok, I was reading through our archive pages and stubbled across some information that will, I believe, greatly help us out with some of what we are seeing.

At one point Glenn Drowns' flock was down to one rooster and a few hens (from Phil Roe when Phil "sold out"). Glenn decided to breed a Silver Penciled Rock cock to Fayoumi (Pg/E/Db/Co and S) and Campine hens (Pg/eb/Db and S). He took these F1s and bred them to his flock. Knowing this, Db AND Co will be present in some of the birds and these two genes are flowing in the Sandhill Line. The question is not IF these genes are present, but where these genes present in the Iowa Blue BEFORE Glenn added in the Fayoumi and Campine. I believe yes, they were present based upon pictures of the purebred birds (before Glenn's outcrossing.)

Now, to Connie's concern as to why we don't have barring in our birchens. Ideal Hatchery bought some of Glenn's Silver Penciled x Fayoumi/Campine crosses and bred them to black leghorn with the goal of producing a birchen bird. In order for the birchen to breed true to color, they would have instantly culled any birds showing Db as Db would have shown up in the plumage as barring. (In varying degrees. Some looking like the Golden Campines Connie posted and some less barred). Considering that 99+ % of the birchens in existance are from Ideal Hatchery, it should be no surprize to us that we don't see Db in their stock.

When we get to a point where we are crossing Ideal line to Sandhill line, then we will see the Db crop up in the birchen colored chicks. But this will take a few generations to manifest. Kari has done this as her stock came from Ideal and Privitt (who drop ships some of their Iowa Blues from Sandhill). And I think the following birchen cockerel from Kari IS begining to show this effect.

Look at his breast. that is not a clear lacing, but looks to me like the Db in action!

Now, l I think we should standardize a silver penciled hen that is genotypically (Pg/eb/S with modifiers to create a mealiness in the tail and on the back), but I also think the club should recognize the birds who exhibit Db/Co, just like the club has recognized the birchen. I also think we should educate on the website (in time) the differences between (Pg/eb) and (Pg/eb/Db/Co) so that new breeders are informed, and can choose the right genetic combination to meet thier needs.
Most of the Birchens I have show brown patterned feathers in their first set of feathers, then will be molted out. These are also the chicks that showed the most yellow on them at hatch. I think they will be the most heavily laced then they grow up. I have some hens that still show it a bit, these are the ones with the light eyes and willow legs. I had guessed it was because they lack some of the melanizers needed to cover it. Birchen is not black without help.
 
For the purpose of APA acceptance, we need to get these birds to breed true. Wish there was a snap test to just genetically ID all the birds so we can compare easily and decide which look the most like the look we like (and historically what they looked like) to go for, but that would be too easy. ;) I think at this time, quite frankly, we'll need to decide on a "type" to define first for Iowa Blues. Either you make the Silver's description general enough to cover the range of the variety from non-Co/Db to Co/Db or you pick one to focus on and get that approved (whatever the headliner, """true""" Iowa blue type we want to be) with the thought that, like Birchen, you could go for the other variety in the future. Personally, I think they are so similar that we can make a standard to cover them both. Much like with partridges and the lemon vs. red hackles, in shows you should have lemon to win, but the range is still present in the breed (especially since that look is a heterozygote for recessive white). Keep the description general and leave it to the breeders to select where they want their line to go, within the standard.

The silvers I have here from Kari I could buy carry Co/Db based on the feathers I'm seeing currently, but have to hold judgement until adult plumage. I think we need to take stock of what we produce this year, see where the majority lies and assess the outcomes.
 
Inquired about purchasing one of these incubators, but thought I'd share. Wish I had the funds right now, I'd get all 3.


Saw this on Craigslist:


Dickey's incubators and Dickey Hatcher - $275 (Port Washington)

All are approximately 8 years old and are in perfect working order. All include electronic thermostat with wafer backup and digital hygrometer and automatic humidity system with 5 gallon capacity. Incubators are set up for 3 auto turning tray slots and an additional hatching slot. They each come with 4 egg trays including blue egg racks and a hatching tray. Hatcher comes with 5 hatching trays. Asking $275.00 for each incubator and $225.00 for hatcher.

Port Washington, WI


http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/grd/3620039248.html

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Iowa-Blue-b...306?pt=US_Childrens_Books&hash=item51a601c312 - came across this listing on Ebay for a "book" on Iowa Blues. The one quote is the same thing you see repeated over and over all over the internet, but just found it interesting. 64 pages, huh...with white chickens on the cover? Just found it odd...apparently a paperback book of info collected off the net.


Product Details

  • ISBN-13: 9786139927869
  • Publisher: Fidel
  • Publication date: 12/6/2011
  • Pages: 64
  • Product dimensions: 0.15 (w) x 6.00 (h) x 9.00 (d)
 
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Inquired about purchasing one of these incubators, but thought I'd share. Wish I had the funds right now, I'd get all 3.


Saw this on Craigslist:


Dickey's incubators and Dickey Hatcher - $275 (Port Washington)

All are approximately 8 years old and are in perfect working order. All include electronic thermostat with wafer backup and digital hygrometer and automatic humidity system with 5 gallon capacity. Incubators are set up for 3 auto turning tray slots and an additional hatching slot. They each come with 4 egg trays including blue egg racks and a hatching tray. Hatcher comes with 5 hatching trays. Asking $275.00 for each incubator and $225.00 for hatcher.

Port Washington, WI


http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/grd/3620039248.html

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Hello Connie

Boy some people have all the luck! Looks like a great deal for the price. I'd jump on this like a duck on a june bug. Go ahead and spring for it, you'll need it soon to raise all those sp's you're planning on having! LOL
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Iowa-Blue-b...306?pt=US_Childrens_Books&hash=item51a601c312 - came across this listing on Ebay for a "book" on Iowa Blues. The one quote is the same thing you see repeated over and over all over the internet, but just found it interesting. 64 pages, huh...with white chickens on the cover? Just found it odd...apparently a paperback book of info collected off the net.


Product Details

  • ISBN-13: 9786139927869
  • Publisher: Fidel
  • Publication date: 12/6/2011
  • Pages: 64
  • Product dimensions: 0.15 (w) x 6.00 (h) x 9.00 (d)


Strange. Not sure it's worth that price to find out if there is anything new in it.
 
Those incubators are EXACTLY what I have and they are totally worth the investment!!!!!!!! I love mine. I have a hatcher and an incubator. We paid $475 for each of my incubators, so I think that price is definately within reason. Keep us posted on what you end up doing.
 
For the purpose of APA acceptance, we need to get these birds to breed true. Wish there was a snap test to just genetically ID all the birds so we can compare easily and decide which look the most like the look we like (and historically what they looked like) to go for, but that would be too easy. ;) I think at this time, quite frankly, we'll need to decide on a "type" to define first for Iowa Blues. Either you make the Silver's description general enough to cover the range of the variety from non-Co/Db to Co/Db or you pick one to focus on and get that approved (whatever the headliner, """true""" Iowa blue type we want to be) with the thought that, like Birchen, you could go for the other variety in the future. Personally, I think they are so similar that we can make a standard to cover them both. Much like with partridges and the lemon vs. red hackles, in shows you should have lemon to win, but the range is still present in the breed (especially since that look is a heterozygote for recessive white). Keep the description general and leave it to the breeders to select where they want their line to go, within the standard.

The silvers I have here from Kari I could buy carry Co/Db based on the feathers I'm seeing currently, but have to hold judgement until adult plumage. I think we need to take stock of what we produce this year, see where the majority lies and assess the outcomes.

I am not opposed to keeping the standard loose enough to include both silver "types". But my concern is this. If we have 50+ silver birds in show for admittance, and half show barring on their tails, half don't, and half have fine penciling on the breast, and half don't, will they be considered "consistant" enough to be added to the Standard?

We may have to defer to Trish and Eric on this one........I don't know what degree of consistantcy is required. I really don't want to have to repeat the process to get them standardized. I'd rather pick a type and go for it, than risk not getting them admitted in the Standard.

Trish, Eric your thoughts?
 

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