Is all Barred Rock barring black?

[Sherrirod]

Please help quick! We are culling roosters day after tomorrow and I need to choose. My BR roo is amazing. As far as I can tell, he is near perfect in caring for his flock and being gentle and even the young pullets want to be near him. I'd love to keep him, but I don't want all offspring to be black and white. I wish I had someone to give him to. It's a great waste to kill him.

I understand BR roosters produce all barred chicks regardless of the hen. But if barring is basically the white part (absence of color) what happens with the hens color?

Basically, I just need to know if all chicks from my roo will be black and white barred with occasional bleed through colored feathers, or if they could be hen color and barred. I saw a thread where white can be white barred (shadow barred) which was what got me wondering. For instance, could my buff Ameracauna be buff barred or lavender Orp be blue barred.

I assume since I can't find an example of it that it doesn't work that way, but I want to be very sure before I harvest a perfectly good animal.

 

[JacinLarkwell]

Please help quick! We are culling roosters day after tomorrow and I need to choose. My BR roo is amazing. As far as I can tell, he is near perfect in caring for his flock and being gentle and even the young pullets want to be near him. I'd love to keep him, but I don't want all offspring to be black and white. I wish I had someone to give him to. It's a great waste to kill him.

I understand BR roosters produce all barred chicks regardless of the hen. But if barring is basically the white part (absence of color) what happens with the hens color?

Basically, I just need to know if all chicks from my roo will be black and white barred with occasional bleed through colored feathers, or if they could be hen color and barred. I saw a thread where white can be white barred (shadow barred) which was what got me wondering. For instance, could my buff Ameracauna be buff barred or lavender Orp be blue barred.

I assume since I can't find an example of it that it doesn't work that way, but I want to be very sure before I harvest a perfectly good animal.

Lavender crossed with anything other than lavender will be black. Odds are black will come from the buff too, but it might be only partially black

 

[HollowOfWisps]

Do you have any blue or splash hens? Those two colors paired with a barred rock rooster will create blues. With a blue hen you would get 50/50 blue and black barred. With a splash hen you will get all blue barred. I personally think blue barred birds are gorgeous and fun.

 

[Amer]

Barring is a simple sexlinked dominant gene so let's set that aside.
Aside from the barring, your rooster is black. Black is a very dominant color.
So crossed with almost everything his offspring will be mostly black. They might have some leakage based on the mother but they'll be mostly black. Then throw the barring back on top.
Take black sexlinks, for example, created from the Rhode Island Red and barred Plymouth Rock.

The only thing that can sneak past that black are incomplete dominant dilutions like dominant white, dun, or blue...

 

[Amer]

Also buff has enough pheomelanin extenders to create a black and buff bird. So potentially his offspring with her would look like this (but imagine barring on the first one)

 

[Sherrirod]

Thank you so much everyone!! Beautiful pics Amer! I could live with black and buff. I do have one blue, but it is a hybrid. Sadly, considering all of my other hens will probably make black barred, I am probably better of going with one of my non barred cockerels so that I can at least make BSL's with my BR hens and hopefully end up with some unique mutts from the rest. I want to be able to tell them apart.

 

[Scrambling]

Also buff has enough pheomelanin extenders to create a black and buff bird. So potentially his offspring with her would look like this (but imagine barring on the first one)View attachment 3957764View attachment 3957765

I have a question about the black marks on the buff feathers on the hen's neck. What is that pattern called?

I have a couple of silkie chicks with such marks, from a solid buff rooster with solid buff and solid white hens. None of the adults have any black marks. I was surprised to see the dots on them when the feathers started to appear.

 

[Amer]

I have a question about the black marks on the buff feathers on the hen's neck. What is that pattern called?

I have a couple of silkie chicks with such marks, from a solid buff rooster with solid buff and solid white hens. None of the adults have any black marks. I was surprised to see the dots on them when the feathers started to appear.

The pattern on the neck is called "ticking."
The parent of the birds with ticking is the white Silkies. Recessive white hides all of the other genes but the genes are still there, so the white Silkies could have the genes to be solid black (or any other color) if not for the recessive white gene preventing the feathers from having pigment.
That's why when the whites are crossed with buff you have black marks.