Is the damage caused by chicken eye worm permanent?

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I think all of my more than 6 month old free range chickens, have eye worms. The others have few, and the others have several in both eyes. I didn't see any pus coming out of the eyes, before treatment. Those worms already eat some parts of their eye, if they feed on some parts of chicken's eye. Is the damage permanent, or it will regenerate?
 
When I dealt with eyeworm the cataract-looking thing went away after treatment. Are you treating them?
I am treating them, and so far, they can see. I don't think there is anything abnormal in my chickens eyes, and the only problem that I saw was the eye worms. What are those cloudy white pus coming out of the chickens third eyelid, whenever I treat their eye for eye worms?
 
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Quote: I didn't see pus with my two chickens who had it. I used diluted Valbazen in the eye and orally. It is important to treat orally too. And to retreat to break the life cycle. It worked and cured them of it completely.

If you are seeing pus I don't know how to advise. Hopefully it isn't getting infected? Sorry I don't know what to say.
 
I didn't see pus with my two chickens who had it. I used diluted Valbazen in the eye and orally. It is important to treat orally too. And to retreat to break the life cycle. It worked and cured them of it completely.

If you are seeing pus I don't know how to advise. Hopefully it isn't getting infected? Sorry I don't know what to say.
I think the pus, would be the same as what should come out, after administering vetrx. I don't think they have eye infection, and I am not using vetrx.

Why is it important to treat it orally? I thought they only live in the conjunctival sac, nitrating membrane and lacrimal duct, which are on the eye or very close to the eye. Wouldn't the albendazole spread on the eye, kill them, if they come in contact/ drink an amount that will kill them?
 
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Luckybaby, Dawg53 has told you several times now to treat with Valbazen orally and in the eye just as ChickensAreSweet just did again. The reason one treats both orally and in the eye is to kill the worm larvae in the intestines and in the eye. If there is pus, then you may have a respiratory infection such as MG or coryza. Here is a bit of reading:
Life cycle of Oxyspirura worms

OxyManVec.jpg
Oxyspirura
worms have an indirect life cycle. Intermediate hosts are cockroaches (e.g. Pycnoscelus surinamensis, the Surinam cockroach, for Oxyspirura mansoni).

Adult female worms deposit eggs in their predilection sites around the eyes. These eggs are passed in the tears through the lacrimal duct to the amouth, are swallowed and shed with the feces. Cockroaches ingest these eggs that release the larvae after digestion. About 8 days later these larvae penetrate the gut's wall, get into the haemocoel (the body cavity of insects) and become encysted, mainly in the fat bodies but also in other tissues. Development to infective L3 larvae is completed about 50 days after ingestion by the cockroaches.
Birds become infected when eating contaminated cockroaches. After digestion infective larvae are released in the bird's gut. They migrate along the esophagus the pharynx and the mouth to the lacrimal duct and the eyes. This migration is very fast: 20 minutes after ingestion of the contaminated cockroaches worm larvae were already found in the lacrimal ducts. Once there, they complete development to adult worms and start producing eggs.
The prepatent period (time between infection and first eggs shed) is 4 to 5 weeks.


Harm caused by Oxyspirura worms, symptoms and diagnosis

Oxyspirura infections are not very frequent in poultry operations and usually the affect single animals, not whole flocks. However, in endemic regions with abundant intermediate hosts many birds in a flock can be affected.
Infections are often benign, but severe infections cannot be excluded. In these cases, the eyes are severely inflamed and watery, and the birds are restless and scratch the eyes continuously. The nictitating membrane may be swollen and moves constantly. The eyelids may be stuck together with a sticky material under the eyelids. Conjunctivitis, excessive lacrimation and photophobia have also reported as well. Infections with secondary bacteria can also occur. In severe cases the birds become blind and the eyes may be destroyed.
Diagnosis is based on clincial signs and detection of adult worms under the nictitating membrane or the conjunctival sac. Eggs can also be detected in the droppings after fecal examination.
 
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/651261/eyeworm
see post #3

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/546566/eye-worms-i-give-up/10
see post #12

Conjecture: I think it is because the eyeworm can move through the digestive system too and "hide" then reinfect the bird. But I am not sure! All I know is that it worked for me.

Do I have to put it on the eye, then do it again 10 days later? How about if I do it for 2 consecutive days(orally and the eye), then do it again 10 days later for 2 consecutive days(orally and the eye). Some might still live in the lacrimal duct, third eyelid and conjunctival sac, if there isn't enough eye worm poison put on the eye to make them go away to other parts of the chickens body, or kill them all.
 
Is there no detrimental effect, if the dead eye worms are stuck in the third eyelid several days after the treatment?
 
Luckybaby, Dawg53 has told you several times now to treat with Valbazen orally and in the eye just as ChickensAreSweet just did again. The reason one treats both orally and in the eye is to kill the worm larvae in the intestines and in the eye. If there is pus, then you may have a respiratory infection such as MG or coryza. Here is a bit of reading:
Life cycle of Oxyspirura worms

OxyManVec.jpg
Oxyspirura
worms have an indirect life cycle. Intermediate hosts are cockroaches (e.g. Pycnoscelus surinamensis, the Surinam cockroach, for Oxyspirura mansoni).

Adult female worms deposit eggs in their predilection sites around the eyes. These eggs are passed in the tears through the lacrimal duct to the amouth, are swallowed and shed with the feces. Cockroaches ingest these eggs that release the larvae after digestion. About 8 days later these larvae penetrate the gut's wall, get into the haemocoel (the body cavity of insects) and become encysted, mainly in the fat bodies but also in other tissues. Development to infective L3 larvae is completed about 50 days after ingestion by the cockroaches.
Birds become infected when eating contaminated cockroaches. After digestion infective larvae are released in the bird's gut. They migrate along the esophagus the pharynx and the mouth to the lacrimal duct and the eyes. This migration is very fast: 20 minutes after ingestion of the contaminated cockroaches worm larvae were already found in the lacrimal ducts. Once there, they complete development to adult worms and start producing eggs.
The prepatent period (time between infection and first eggs shed) is 4 to 5 weeks.


Harm caused by Oxyspirura worms, symptoms and diagnosis

Oxyspirura infections are not very frequent in poultry operations and usually the affect single animals, not whole flocks. However, in endemic regions with abundant intermediate hosts many birds in a flock can be affected.
Infections are often benign, but severe infections cannot be excluded. In these cases, the eyes are severely inflamed and watery, and the birds are restless and scratch the eyes continuously. The nictitating membrane may be swollen and moves constantly. The eyelids may be stuck together with a sticky material under the eyelids. Conjunctivitis, excessive lacrimation and photophobia have also reported as well. Infections with secondary bacteria can also occur. In severe cases the birds become blind and the eyes may be destroyed.
Diagnosis is based on clincial signs and detection of adult worms under the nictitating membrane or the conjunctival sac. Eggs can also be detected in the droppings after fecal examination.

They don't have any symptoms of mycoplasma gallisepticum or infectious coryza. The pus that I am talking about, only comes out when the I put the medicine in the eye. Maybe it is not a pus, but eye worm coat. The color is similar to the youtube video below.

look at 6:08/8:41
 
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