Is this keet still alive??? Need help with complicated situation.

[lazytrucker]

@R2elk @PeepsCA
HISTORY-
I couldn't help myself and put and put 2 guinea eggs under a broody hen a couple days apart as I found them. (Didn't understand about staggered hatches yet...) She started getting flakey and would get off the eggs to go set on one that was just laid in other nest. I took the eggs from her and put them in an incubator and gave her fake eggs to sit on hoping that when the keets hatched that she would take care of them.
Fast forward to now. 1 keet hatched Saturday, spent one day in incubator then one in a brooder. I finally put it under the hen last night. I've been worried about it getting food and water while the hen is still on the fake eggs waiting for this other keet to hatch.

Soooo, I tented a towel over a bowl of hot water and took the other eggs under it and candled it. I do know you're not supposed to mess with them but if its dead I'm going to move the hen and the single keet to a dog crate where they're safe. I'm going to post this then edit it to add the pictures i took of the candling.
I didn't see any movement at all and i drew a line where the air cell was about 4 days days ago and I'm not sure there is much difference. I'm hoping and experienced hatcher can tell me if this keet is dead.

 

[R2elk]

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HISTORY-
I couldn't help myself and put and put 2 guinea eggs under a broody hen a couple days apart as I found them. (Didn't understand about staggered hatches yet...) She started getting flakey and would get off the eggs to go set on one that was just laid in other nest. I took the eggs from her and put them in an incubator and gave her fake eggs to sit on hoping that when the keets hatched that she would take care of them.
Fast forward to now. 1 keet hatched Saturday, spent one day in incubator then one in a brooder. I finally put it under the hen last night. I've been worried about it getting food and water while the hen is still on the fake eggs waiting for this other keet to hatch.

Soooo, I tented a towel over a bowl of hot water and took the other eggs under it and candled it. I do know you're not supposed to mess with them but if its dead I'm going to move the hen and the single keet to a dog crate where they're safe. I'm going to post this then edit it to add the pictures i took of the candling.
I didn't see any movement at all and i drew a line where the air cell was about 4 days days ago and I'm not sure there is much difference. I'm hoping and experienced hatcher can tell me if this keet is dead.

If you aren't seeing any movement, it is likely the egg is dead. It does not look like a viable egg to me.

 

[lazytrucker]

If you aren't seeing any movement, it is likely the egg is dead. It does not look like a viable egg to me.

Thanks for the confirmation. When I called them a couple of weeks ago I could tell obvious movement in one but couldn't tell on the other. I'll just take the hens fake eggs away and make a place for her and the 1 keet.
It is only day 27. Is there any harm or good to leaving it in the incubator for a couple more days??

 

[Rose Quartz]

Thanks for the confirmation. When I called them a couple of weeks ago I could tell obvious movement in one but couldn't tell on the other. I'll just take the hens fake eggs away and make a place for her and the 1 keet.
It is only day 27. Is there any harm or good to leaving it in the incubator for a couple more days??

If there's only the one no not really. If it's dead there is the chance it could be rotten and explode all over the inside of the incu though.

As long as there's no external pip I've never had a problem just candling eggs, mostly like normal. I just don't move them around much.

If you check it again and still don't see movement, it's likely dead.

 

[lazytrucker]

If there's only the one no not really. If it's dead there is the chance it could be rotten and explode all over the inside of the incu though.

As long as there's no external pip I've never had a problem just candling eggs, mostly like normal. I just don't move them around much.

If you check it again and still don't see movement, it's likely dead.

I put 4 other eggs in there a week ago so if I take this one out I'll be better able to turn them properly. Sure don't want this one to explode all over other eggs and incubator..Will definitely check for movement one more time.

 

[Rose Quartz]

I put 4 other eggs in there a week ago so if I take this one out I'll be better able to turn them properly. Sure don't want this one to explode all over other eggs and incubator..Will definitely check for movement one more time.

Oh, then yeah I'd take it out if you cant see any movement.

 

[R2elk]

It is only day 27. Is there any harm or good to leaving it in the incubator for a couple more days??

Guinea eggs can hatch from day 26 through day 28. There should be no harm in giving it one more day.

 

[lazytrucker]

Guinea eggs can hatch from day 26 through day 28. There should be no harm in giving it one more day.

Ok. I had a chicken egg that went bad too but there was no air space in it at all. Hopefully this one isn't to the explode stage.