Is this normal for a black australorp?

[BasicallyHeather]

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Both of these conditions would disqualify a Black Australorp in a show. Per the APA Standard "bottoms of feet & toes pinkish white". Australorp disqualifications: "two or more feathers tipped or edged with positive white".".

I thought that all BAs had a few white tipped wing feathers until they reached maturity? All of my BAs had these, and they fell out around 13 weeks and were replaced with all black feathers.

 

[donrae]

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What she said. Hatcheries don't cull for things like this, as another poster mentioned they did in their personal breeding program. Straight combed wyandottes are being seen fairly often in hatchery birds, can't think of any other examples right off. I'd bet they're Australorps, just hatchery quality. Look at the whole bird, AND where you got it.

 

[Chris09]

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• Black Jersey Giants - Single Comb and Willow/Black legs and Yellow on the bottom of there feet.
• Black Australorp - and Black/Slate legs and Pink-ish color on the bottom of there feet.
• Black Orpingtons - Single Comb and Black/Slate legs and White color on the bottom of there feet.
• Black Wyandotte - Rose Comb and Willow/Black legs and Yellow on the bottom of there feet. (* Hatchery Wyandotte may have a Single Comb do to cross breeding.*)
• Black Plymouth Rock - Single Comb Yellow to Dusty Yellow (Yellow is preferred) legs and Yellow on the bottom of there feet.

Now, since you received them from a hatchery your birds could be Black Giant or a Cross but I'm leaning more for it being a Black Jersey Giant /Australorp cross.

purple shine to their feathers that the other ones do

Any Black Plumage chicken can have a Purple shine.

Chris​

 

[huppfarm]

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Both of these conditions would disqualify a Black Australorp in a show. Per the APA Standard "bottoms of feet & toes pinkish white". Australorp disqualifications: "two or more feathers tipped or edged with positive white".".

YOU ARE CORRECT! IVE RAISED QUALITY (NOT HATCHERY) BLACK AUSTRALORPS FOR YEARS. THERE ARE SEVERAL OF YOU WHO HAVE NOT READ THE STANDARD FOR BLACK AUSTRALORPS IN THE A.P.A. STANDARD OF PEFECTION BOOK.
YOU CAN LOOK UP ON LINE THE STANDARD IF YOU DONT HAVE THE STANDARD OF PERFECTION BOOK ON HAND.
NO YELLOW OF ANY KIND IS ALLOWED IN THE BREED, OR GREEN IN THE LEGS.
ONLY CHICKS AND YOUNG PULLETS OR COCKERRELS CAN HAVE ANY WHITE FEATHERS, NO ADULTS.

CROOKED TOES ARE CAUSED BY STRESS IN THE EGG, TOO LONG IN THE EGG TRYING TO PIP OUT FOR DAYS INSTEAD OF HOURS OR MINUTES.
ALSO POOR GENEOLOGY OF PARENT BREEDING PENS AS IN MANY HATCHERY CHICKS SOLD OR EGGS FROM HATCHERY BIRDS.

CULL CHICKS WITH ANY DEFECT THAT WILL CARRY ON IN BREEDING, STRIVE TO BREED AND RAISE QUALITY BIRDS, THERE ARE ENOUGH JUNK BIRDS BEING SOLD AND BREAD, CREATING MORE MUTT CHICKENS. KEEP THE FANCY GOING STRONG, BE PROUD OF YOUR FLOCK.

YOU WANT A GOOD REPUTATION FOR GOOD BIRDS, SHOW, HOBBY OR YARD.
PEOPLE REMEMBER YOUR NAME WHEN THE BIRDS ARE OF GOOD QUALITY AND MORE SO WHEN THE BIRDS ARE NOT !!!


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[Phoenixxx]

Just a thought, but since leghorns are one of the breeds used to create the australorp, couldn't the yellow fault simply be that recessive gene randomly popping up? I, too, have some australorps and one of the brothers has the yellow undertones in the feet as well as an unrelated hen I bought elsewhere.

 

[morgan999]

YOU ARE CORRECT! IVE RAISED QUALITY (NOT HATCHERY) BLACK AUSTRALORPS FOR YEARS. THERE ARE SEVERAL OF YOU WHO HAVE NOT READ THE STANDARD FOR BLACK AUSTRALORPS IN THE A.P.A. STANDARD OF PEFECTION BOOK.

YOU CAN LOOK UP ON LINE THE STANDARD IF YOU DONT HAVE THE STANDARD OF PERFECTION BOOK ON HAND.

NO YELLOW OF ANY KIND IS ALLOWED IN THE BREED, OR GREEN IN THE LEGS.

ONLY CHICKS AND YOUNG PULLETS OR COCKERRELS CAN HAVE ANY WHITE FEATHERS,  NO ADULTS.


CROOKED TOES ARE CAUSED BY STRESS IN THE EGG, TOO LONG IN THE EGG TRYING TO PIP OUT FOR DAYS INSTEAD OF HOURS OR MINUTES.

ALSO POOR GENEOLOGY OF PARENT BREEDING PENS AS IN MANY HATCHERY CHICKS SOLD OR EGGS FROM HATCHERY BIRDS.


CULL CHICKS WITH ANY DEFECT THAT WILL CARRY ON IN BREEDING, STRIVE TO BREED AND RAISE QUALITY BIRDS, THERE ARE ENOUGH JUNK BIRDS BEING SOLD AND BREAD, CREATING MORE MUTT CHICKENS.  KEEP THE FANCY GOING STRONG, BE PROUD OF YOUR FLOCK.


YOU WANT A GOOD REPUTATION FOR GOOD BIRDS, SHOW, HOBBY OR YARD.

PEOPLE REMEMBER YOUR NAME WHEN THE BIRDS ARE OF GOOD QUALITY AND MORE SO WHEN THE BIRDS ARE NOT !!!



WHEN YOU POST.......MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT.............PEOPLE ARE WATCHING

Where online can you find the standard of perfection? A small group of us are trying to find one that we can review without having to purchase the print book when we are only interested in the Australorps.

 

[huppfarm]

There is not one online..............but you can search a specific breed and usually find there is the standard for that breed.

 

[Phoenixxx]

Where online can you find the standard of perfection? A small group of us are trying to find one that we can review without having to purchase the print book when we are only interested in the Australorps.

Can't remember where I saw it, but the comb must have five points, the legs must be black over white (as in no yellow undertones) with white toenails and there can't be any white or red in the feathers although grey at the downy bits is acceptible. The rest I don't know.

 

[nate1the1great1]

Both of these conditions would disqualify a Black Australorp in a show. Per the APA Standard "bottoms of feet & toes pinkish white". Australorp disqualifications: "two or more feathers tipped or edged with positive white".".

I don't know if you are correct on the bottoms of feet, becuase the person that helped me ( he is the APA person in charge of district 6) helped me get my BA trio and they have pink on the very bottom not like this though, mine are under, under... From what I know of the breed they are supposed to have pink under there feet...

 

[junebuggena]

Just a thought, but since leghorns are one of the breeds used to create the australorp, couldn't the yellow fault simply be that recessive gene randomly popping up? I, too, have some australorps and one of the brothers has the yellow undertones in the feet as well as an unrelated hen I bought elsewhere.

White skin is dominant. The yellow skin gene was bred out while the breed was being established, back in the 1920s. If you have an Australorp with yellow skin, something else was bred into the line within the last generation or two. Hatcheries cross breed their 'purebred' birds all the time. That's why the have the disclaimer that their birds don't meet exhibition standards.