Is this normal?

Discussion in 'New Member Introductions' started by thewildbunch, Sep 19, 2014.

  1. thewildbunch

    thewildbunch Out Of The Brooder

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    We have been raising silkies for about 5 years now with no problems, but recently a few of them have been losing weight at an alarming rate. Our egg production also slowed almost to a stop. (4-6 eggs per day from almost 30 hens)[​IMG]

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    We have wormed them with Wazine and treated for coccidiosis with Corid. We still are seeing some unusual droppings (liquid carmel colored) in the yard and under the roosts. (I have included a photo) We've been told that this type of poop is "normal" on some other sites, but we're just not sure. If anyone has any insight, we sure would appreciate it.
     
  2. chooks4life

    chooks4life Overrun With Chickens

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    Not healthy poop, no. 'Normal' encompasses a whole lot of ill health people accept as 'good enough'.

    My guess is it's something impacting the liver, possibly, but I'm not 100% sure, never had poops like that to deal with. Well, basically no matter what it is it's likely to impact the liver. Kinda useless guess, lol!

    Best wishes.
     
  3. TwoCrows

    TwoCrows Show me the way old friend Staff Member

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    Hello there and welcome to BYC! [​IMG]

    Those are normal poops. Cecal poop. They are sticky and stinky. And yes, sometimes they do come out caramel color.

    Here is a nice poop chart....http://chat.allotment-garden.org/index.php?topic=17568.0

    But as for loosing weight, the thing that comes to mind is worms. I would try something stronger than Wazine just in case. You might try some Safeguard Liquid Goat wormer. 1/2 cc for heavy weights, 1/4 cc for bantam types, once each day for 3 days. I find it very easy to get it into them by mixing the med in 1cc Gerber Baby Food. Peas is a good flavor. Then with a syringe without the needle, slowly squeeze this onto the center of the tongue.

    Also, keep the hair around the eyes trimmed with Silkies. It can get so long that they can't see to eat or drink and I have even heard of Silkies wandering into ponds and drowning because they can't see.

    You might also post this in our emergency section as well for more input...https://www.backyardchickens.com/f/10/emergencies-diseases-injuries-and-cures

    I hope you can get down to the bottom of this and get your birds back to good health soon.
     
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  4. Wyandottes7

    Wyandottes7 Overrun With Chickens

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    Welcome to BYC! [​IMG]We're glad to have you.

    TwoCrows has given good advice.
     
  5. stasichick

    stasichick Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Thanks for the poop chart!!! so funny but good to keep in mind! thanks :eek:)
     
  6. TwoCrows

    TwoCrows Show me the way old friend Staff Member

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    Yes, that is a funky chart, but it sure does help! :)
     
  7. stasichick

    stasichick Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Welcome!!! happy to see someone had a poop chart for you (and me!) haha
     
  8. chooks4life

    chooks4life Overrun With Chickens

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    The fact that they're unusual poops for your flock to produce, and are accompanied by your chooks losing weight and slowing production, is probably not a coincidence.

    The vast majority of all poultry deaths are due to digestive system disease, specifically involving the liver, due to the diets they're kept on; it's not a coincidence that many flocks never have 'cecal poops', only healthy black and white ones, whereas other flock owners accept these sickly, stinking poops as normal.

    As I said before, 'normal' encompasses many states of poor health generally considered 'good enough'.

    Each to their own.

    Best wishes.
     
  9. thewildbunch

    thewildbunch Out Of The Brooder

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    Thanks for all the input. It may be an diet issue as we (without knowing better) had them on a steady diet of scratch - and only scratch. We switched to layers pellets a couple of weeks ago. The suggestion to trim around their eyes makes a lot of sense and we will get on that today. As far as the goat wormer suggestion, is there any way to give that to the entire flock, or does it have to be administered one at a time? We have a large number of birds and that would be very labor intensive. (we'd still do it, but if there's a way to deliver it to the masses, that would be great!) Thanks again
     
  10. iwiw60

    iwiw60 Overrun With Chickens

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    Pellet feed is rather large for little silkies to consume. I feed Purina Layena crumbles...my girls love it!
     

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