Isn't a farriers job to work with horses????

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I have not had much success with farriers, so therefore I do not hold alot of respect for them. I wholeheartedly second the idea of finding a barefoot trimmer. Maybe Duchess has a split in her hoof b/c the farrier has not trimmerd her correctly.and there is too much pressure on her toes. (Been there) My horse had splits and now it is amolst grown out. Also, before we went barefoot, his hoof walls were so deteriorated he couldn't keep the shoes on. Going barefoot was teh best thing we ever did.

http://www.equinesoundness.com/ This is where my trimmer ws educated. You can probably contact her and find a local trimmer near you . The only thing you would be out is the time, if the trimmer says she can't help you.
 
It is a mistake to assume with any hoof problem, that it always is fixed by not having shoes on. Some horses, some problems, some things, just need shoes.

And there's any value in hearing the other side, I have seen far more bad barefoot trimmers than farriers.

Again, a word to the wise is sufficient - not every foot problem is made better by removing shoes.
 
Isn't a farriers job to work with horses???? No it is not. Their job is to trim or shoe - your horse should stand quietly having been worked with by you or a trainer. Yes a good farrier will take the time to get to know a horse but it is not his/her job to train or work with the horse - UNLESS you are paying them to do so.


Personally - I would not call the "one shoer" back.




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I do believe I said this:
The only thing you would be out is the time, if the trimmer says she can't help you.

I'm not gonna debate whats better. And I am not assuming anything. All I'm saying is in my experience, barefoot is best. My experence with farriers has been less than wonderful. And my horse was lame, he is not now. So the op can make a choice.But there is a choice to make, and one she can persue if she so chooses. Isn;'t it bertter to look at all options?​
 
I guess I should mention that they have been barefoot for the year that we have had them. Duke only needs a trim, but I am going to have to be the one to do it. No one else can even get near him. Duchess however needs a shoe on that hoof and of course the ONE he got done wasn't the one that needs it.
 
Yes.. It IS the job of the farrier to work with horses. Its an assumed part of the job. Not every horse is going to be a doll, especially if the farrier is not handling them correctly, taking too long, ect. As long as the horse is not a nutcase, the farrier needs to do their best. It really sounds like you need to search for a great farrier Deb... one who can do your other horse too. When we had our horses... the first two were just trail horses, and we had a trying time with farriers recommended to us. When I later got my show mare.. and frequented Paso Fino shows quite often, there were always 2 or 3 farriers who had set up shop in the stable areas. I never ran into a farrier there who was not absolutely *fabulous*, even if they didn't speak english and you had to gesture about what you wanted, LOL. Those guys were quick, bam bam and they were done... very gentle, and I never had my mare stand as quietly as she did for some of those fellows. They gave out their cards and they were the ones we called to come out and do the rest of our horses. Just like in ANY part of equine handling.. it does matter how the horse is approached, from the get-go. Horses know when a person is nervous, or aggravated, or fustrated. And they know when someone first yanks their foot up off the ground that things aren't going to get any better from there. Since your mare is great for you, I wouldn't cast blame anywhere but squarely on that farriers head. And the good, decent, farriers I met, would take the time to do things right with the horse.. if only for the sake of the next fellow who comes along.
When I worked on the horse farm in CO, my co-worker was an equine dentist. Once a month, if only to de-sensitize the horses, she would do the rounds and check all their teeth. We knew which ones didn't fancy that sort of thing, even if they were fabulous in other respects, and they got sedated. Of course, I was the one stuck holding their heads up on my shoulder while they fell asleep and leaned all their weight on me, LOL. But taking the time for evaluation and taking the appropriate measures just comes with the job of working with horses.
 
Squishy, we are going to go ahead and get Duke trained before we even think about asking a farrier to try to shoe him. He is really a pistol. I am about the only one that can get near him and not if I am holding a halter!

God works in mysterious and wonderful ways. We needed that money to put our cat to sleep today.
 
It is not the JOB of the farrier to train anyones horse. Its up to the owner to have an animal that will stand for the farrier. A horse trainer is the person who works with horses. Having said that. Most farriers are very capable of working with difficult horses. Some are better than others. Some suck at it. It may take awhile to find the right partership. When you do, keep him.

I also have been in the position of finding a farrier who works well with me and my mules. Some won't even touch the mules. I hope all works well for you and good luck with the hoof.
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I just read back a few. One poster said, taking to long. I have had that problem before. A mule that stands completely still, acted up when the farrier was taking to long. Animals are so funny.
 
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Find another ferrier. A good ferrier has some tricks up their sleeves & can keep the attention off of the feet being trimmed. Of course there are exceptions. I have a grumpy old mini that I have to throw before I can trim him.
 

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