JANUARY 2015 Hatch-A-Long

[Purpletie3]

Do you mind sharing with me what your silkie breeder said about heat & humidity. Pretty certain that the second egg to pip out the side sufficated. I could see it directly below the big vent hole most of the day trying to get its beak thru the membrane. It hasn't moved since late this afternoon. This evening I put a pencil down the vent hole & touched the tip of the beak that was visible under the membrane. There was no movement of the beak like earlier. I should have found something thin enough to break a hole in the membrane, but I was afraid it would start bleeding with being pipped in the side of the egg

She runs close to 100 degrees, 55 % humidity for 1-18 and 65% no more at lockdown. She is in Fl.

I think the problem with the lower pip is they mean to pip internally and instead go through the linings and the shell before their blood vessels retract. It was odd though because I did have several pip low and they were just fine...maybe because it's a day 21 hatch. However, I did lose one from Monday's hatch that pipped late and he did go through a blood vessel.

I have four left in the incubator that have no pips...holding out hope they hatch. But, those big Orpington eggs threw out so much humidity it sent me to 80%. So, hopefully no one is drowning in their egg either.

I have large wooden skewers that I can shove through the vent holes to raise hell in my incubator if necessary...they work.Sometimes I tape a q tip on them with antibiotic ointment to see a membrane clearer and keep it from drying out if nothing is going on. I also have a few extra air holes in there but nothing a little duct tape can't fix! LOL

It's such a delicate science to this...

 

[Purpletie3]

Day 20 for this weeks 7 eggs and already a marans has a pip, I'm going to try hatching upright in an egg carton this time!

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The hatch has begun! Now, time to sit on your hands & watch! Hopefully, you will have some sleep tonight!

 

[gimmie birdies]

a lower pip can be an early undeveloped chick pip, normally the chick pips the air cell in the egg breathes that then a day later pips the outer shell in upper egg, before hatching up to another day later. a lower pip means it didn't pip inner cell and breathe inner cell before breathing outer shell air and breathing both helps with the absorbing egg yolk.

 

[ChickenLady2014]

She runs close to 100 degrees, 55 % humidity for 1-18 and 65% no more at lockdown.  She is in Fl.  

I think the problem with the lower pip is they mean to pip internally and instead go through the linings and the shell before their blood vessels retract. It was odd though because I did have several pip low and they were just fine...maybe because it's a day 21 hatch. However, I did lose one from Monday's hatch that pipped late and he did go through a blood vessel. 

I have four left in the incubator that have no pips...holding out hope they hatch. But, those big Orpington eggs threw out so much humidity it sent me to 80%.  So, hopefully no one is drowning in their egg either.

I have large wooden skewers that I can shove through the vent holes to raise hell in my incubator if necessary...they work.Sometimes I tape a q tip on them with antibiotic ointment to see a membrane clearer and keep it from drying out if nothing is going on.  I also have a few extra air holes in there but nothing a little duct tape can't fix! LOL

It's such a delicate science to this...

I need to get me some of those wood skewers. If the styrofoam incubator was mine it would already have additional holes. Just checked them and the 4th egg that pipped on the side looks like there may be blood at the hole site. My first pipper still has its original big whole, but has not zipped. I'm wondering if he is malpositioned so he can't zip

 

[Purpletie3]

I need to get me some of those wood skewers. If the styrofoam incubator was mine it would already have additional holes. Just checked them and the 4th egg that pipped on the side looks like there may be blood at the hole site. My first pipper still has its original big whole, but has not zipped. I'm wondering if he is malpositioned so he can't zip

I am sorry...sounds like they are having a bit of trouble. I don't think there is anything you can do when they pip the blood vessel. How many do you have in there?

 

[ChickenLady2014]

I am sorry...sounds like they are having a bit of  trouble. I don't think there is anything you can do when they pip the blood vessel. How many do you have in there?

I have 12 in there, on day 18 all were moving chicks. My second to last hatch had a bunch of side pipers that didn't make it, but the hatch in between was a 100% hatch rate. Go figure, I'm really stumped.

 

[Purpletie3]

I have 12 in there, on day 18 all were moving chicks. My second to last hatch had a bunch of side pipers that didn't make it, but the hatch in between was a 100% hatch rate. Go figure, I'm really stumped.

Hmmm....What is different for you with this hatch? I am really rooting for you!

Gotta run to pick up my daughter from the ski hill and I am craving a pizza...since my hatch is either done or in a lengthy lull!

 

[ChickenLady2014]

Hmmm....What is different for you with this hatch?  I am really rooting for you!

Gotta run to pick up my daughter from the ski hill and I am craving a pizza...since my hatch is either done or in a lengthy lull!

Thanks for positive reinforcement. Another 2 have pipped, 1 in the air cell and 1 almost to the bottom of the pointy end. My last fiasco that I lost a bunch was turner trouble. This time with these eggs it was with a new incubator with a new turner. I even had sticky notes that I stuck on the lid to mark which side the egg turner was leaned to. I checked the turner multiple times a day through out the whole process, it was working. I just can't understand why so many of this hatch are malpositioned.

 

[Purpletie3]

Thanks for positive reinforcement. Another 2 have pipped, 1 in the air cell and 1 almost to the bottom of the pointy end. My last fiasco that I lost a bunch was turner trouble. This time with these eggs it was with a new incubator with a new turner. I even had sticky notes that I stuck on the lid to mark which side the egg turner was leaned to. I checked the turner multiple times a day through out the whole process, it was working. I just can't understand why so many of this hatch are malpositioned.

I think that the silkies are fussy little buggers! It is good that more have pipped though... But, every silkie hatch has been different for me. Hopefully, they will zip on out for you .

I am waiting for the time I can hatch with a broody silkie . That will be cool!ok kids here now, finally and its pizza time...then incubator time

 

[ChickenLady2014]

a lower pip can be an early undeveloped chick pip, normally the chick pips the air cell in the egg breathes that then a day later pips the outer shell in upper egg, before hatching up to another day later. a lower pip means it didn't pip inner cell and breathe inner cell before breathing outer shell air and breathing both helps with the absorbing egg yolk. 

The end of day 18 I removed turner, candled ~ all 12 eggs had a moving chick, no internal pips. Put them in lockdown. Increased the humidity to 45-50% and waited for the first external pip to increase to 65-70% humidity. That was on day 20, at 11 pm it will be day 21. 6 have pipped externally, 4 of which have been in the side of the egg. 2 pipped the air cell. One of the 4 is just below the air cell, but that one has a good hole & has been breathing air sick last night. Out of the other 3, 1 is deceased, 1 you can see red veins, but it hasn't broke thru the membrane yet and the last one you can just see cracked shell at this time. The incubation process has went beautifully up until now. It is frustrating to see this many malpositioned pips.