Japanese color genetics?

[ZachyWachy]

I can't really find any genetics on the patterns of Japanese bantams and it looks like I will be having two whole black tailed buff pullets with an experienced black tailed white rooster. I was just wondering, next year, when those pullets start to lay, what colors would I get in their chicks? Would it create an official color or would it create an unofficial color? Just curious.

 

[SunHwaKwon]

Males should be buff and females silver (white). The colors may not look as nice as pure varieties. Have you read about the leg genetics?

 

[nicalandia]

Males should be buff and females silver (white). The colors may not look as nice as pure varieties. Have you read about the leg genetics?

Technically the Males will be S/s+, so heterozygous for sex linked dominant Silver, which is entirely dominant as chick and will only start to show rustiness on the shoulders/back/hackel when they start to mature, but the breast and underside will be clean silver.

This is how a Golden columbian restricted rooster looks(while Black tailed Japanese may be db or columbian restricted with other modifiers, the result will be the same)

 

[Amer]

Technically the Males will be S/s+, so heterozygous for sex linked dominant Silver, which is entirely dominant as chick and will only start to show rustiness on the shoulders/back/hackel when they start to mature, but the breast and underside will be clean silver.

This is how a Golden columbian restricted rooster looks(while Black tailed Japanese may be db or columbian restricted with other modifiers, the result will be the same)
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[NolaSeramas]

Because of the Black tail pattern restrictor all birds should be a solid color other than black in the main tail and wing feathers. Males will be a light gold or citron color with no shoulder or hackle and saddle color density since they shouldn’t have any phenomelanin enhancers like Mohogony. The Females should be tradition Black tailed Whites with almost identical plumage to those with a pure Silver ancestry.

 

[The Moonshiner]

Pullets will be black tailed white.
Males will be black tailed white with the yellowing in hackles back and saddle.
Like pic above but no black in hackles.

 

[nicalandia]

Males will be a light gold or citron color with no shoulder or hackle and saddle color density since they shouldn’t have any phenomelanin enhancers like Mahogany.

S/s+ restricted males will not show any gold leakage(due to s+) on the breast and underbelly only at the hackle and saddle(the gold may be of a lemon color).

I would say that it would be real nice if the cream gene was introduced in the Japanese Bantams and we could have a Lemon/Cream/Citron Black Tailed Japanese Bantams

Cream diluted black-tailed rooster

 

[ZachyWachy]

Really cool. Thanks so much for all of the replies. I can't wait to hatch some out and get yelled at by my mom for hatching even more chicks. Maybe when I am older I can work on some projects. I know that I would like to make japanese/ silkie crosses an actual breed and maybe I can add more colors to Japanese bantams. Who knows? The possibilities are endless.

 

[ZachyWachy]

Males should be buff and females silver (white). The colors may not look as nice as pure varieties. Have you read about the leg genetics?

Yes I have. All I can hope for is that the majority of my eggs don't land in that fatal range. For now I am just hatching as a hobby to see what I can get. Later I might go into specifics and try to breed for specific traits but for now I'm just trying to get through school and then on to college.

 

[ZachyWachy]

The Rooster

And the hens