Jersey Giants thread for pictures and discussion

[Mrs. Fluffy Puffy]

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[kathyinmo]

Oh Micki, those look very very nice! I am really glad you got such nice ones. I wish the ones I had were good, but they just weren't. The girl I bought them from said she ordered them, not culls. I dunno .... you know how it goes. In one hatch you can get exhibition quality along side some poor type culls.

 

[A1Blues]

[My original stock came from OKCarla on here; I inquired of her a few times on what her breed line was, and she's told me she doesn't know, and has since sold the entire flock (this was quite awhile ago, so I was surprised to see your post, Chicksdigit). I also have some young 'uns from Maria Hall, and in my opinion, my original ones are much closer to the SOP than the Hall babies (no offense intended).

Wynette from MI: It is best not to slam other Jersey giant breeders: Maria's Jersey giants strives to breed to the Standard of Perfection (SOP) & if they were lesser quality than why are they winning in APA shows???

A lot of discussion as to where one can get Jersey Giants. Maria's Jersey Giants raises black, splash, and blues & they do have started birds available from our 4-12-10 & 4/25/10 hatches. One order will be taken for blue/splash Jersey giant baby chicks for the 5/9/10 hatch. Our blacks are sold out for this hatch. If you want chicks otherwise they are on a prepaid basis. Up to 18 dozen of hatching eggs have already been shipped out in the last 6 weeks & have a couple chick orders to go out. Fertility is super with reports of 11/14, 12/14, 19/19 chicks being hatched for 2010. More reports are coming in. Birds are grown to only the 6-12 week range. There are black, blue, & splash Jersey Giant roos available.

When looking for show quality Blue Jersey Giants - keep in mind that a nicely laced blue will have a darker outline on the feathers. They are not silver blue or self blue as shown in some pictures.
To see Quality Jersey Giants go to www.mariasjerseygiants.com

 

[Wynette]

Maria (a1blues), as I stated, I meant no offense; I'm sorry that you've taken it. It is just my opinion that I stated. I love ALL of my birds - each and every one - and we all have things that we are working on within our breeds. That's what this thread is about - comparing notes, showing pictures so we can see what each member is working on and where we stand. Again, NO OFFENSE INTENDED. I don't consider comparing our birds and stock as "slamming" and I'm very sorry you feel that folks should not discuss breeds in this way.

ETA: as my stock has grown out, I am actually now preferring my Maria birds over my original ones - this is, again, just my personal opinion of where I'd like to take my stock, and what I'm personally looking for.

Please take part in our discussion here, Maria! ALL opinions are welcomed!

 

[suzettex5]

I could use some help from those of you with experience hatching and candling Jersey eggs.

I set 17 eggs on the 1st. Today, I could only see 1 for sure 'eye spot' developed, one 'maybe', and several I couldnt see an air cell on. Most of the eggs are very dark though. I'm just using a small led flashlight. Should I see more? How long should I wait till I remove any,seeing as I cant even see anything in most of them yet due to shell coloration?

These are shipped eggs, so I dont expect a perfect hatch or anything, but I am getting nervous....(i'm a worry wart)

Please share your experiences with me! Thanks!

 

[seminolewind]

I think you need a stronger flashlight

And since they were set on the 1st, I would give it a good 7 days, maybe 10 until you come to any conclusions

I once candled on day 5 with an egg candler and saw nothing and threw the eggs out, dug them out of the trash the next day, 3 were broken and had development, the rest went back into the bator and all hatched.

You might want to also look for veining

 

[seminolewind]

A1Blues, and Wynette, and all:

That show quality stuff is great, but I get 100% perfect in what I breed for: Temperment and personality

 

[kathyinmo]

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Today is only the 5th, so that is only 4 days. It is too soon to be seeing anything more. Really, I wouldn't be handling the eggs this soon. You can easily jar the contents, drop the egg, and add bacteria and other microorganisms to the eggs. It is recommended to candle once between day 7 - 10, and again at lockdown (day 18). I rarely ever candle my eggs, except at lockdown. Just a personal choice, as I just don't care to do it. When I do candle, I do not touch the egg. I have a high power small flash light that I simply hold over the top of the egg while it is in the turner.

Good luck on your upcoming hatch!

 

[hunterland]

Being an avid student of genetics and experienced in breeding for more than 50 years, I would like to make a disclaimer about the breeding statistics in relation to colors: Kathyinmo posted the supposed true genetic patterns of blue-types, and she was accurate.

BUT some blacks may be masking a silent blue genome that is back in the linage (we would call this a silent recessive) so there may be a few blue or grayer black throw-offs show up in a large hatch with the particular G1's (the #1. cross). A similar occurence may happen with #3. cross (splashes will sometimes show up as throw-offs), and again in #5. cross (blacks will sometimes show up as throw-offs); although, superfically looking at the G1's supposed expression, there should be no odd colors.


1. Black (BB) x Black (BB) = 100% Black

2. Black (BB) x Blue (Bb) = 50% Black, 50% Blue

3. Black (BB) x Splash (bb) = 100% Blue

4. Blue (Bb) x Blue (Bb) = 25% Black, 50% Blue, 25% Splash

5. Blue (Bb) x Splash (bb) = 50% Blue, 50% Splash

To give you an example of what I am speaking of in a different breed, I purchased a standard poodle that came from parents, grandparents and great grandparents of 55 pound sires and 45-50 pound dams, so statistically and genetically my male should have been around 55-58 pounds. By eight months old he was 80 pounds, so I inquired. It was a 8-generation backline that had 80 pound sires and 75 pound dams. His silent recessives from both parents finally lined perfectly up to express themselves, yet all his siblings were 50-55 pounds - just a fluke and one that was to my benefit. He was a gorgeous pony size boy.

 

[hunterland]

I forgot to put in:

6. Splash (bb) x Splash (bb) = 100% Splash, but an occassional blue will show up as a throw-off.