Jersey Giants thread for pictures and discussion

[elieugene6]

Oh my. I want a brown giant. I actually wanted to create chocolate jersey giants but alas. I cannot afford any chocolate bird right now.

 

[kathyinmo]

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"They say it happens...." WHO says this? Honestly, I have never heard of this before.

Not saying it doesn't happen, mind you; just saying I have never heard of this.

 

[mahalo4]

I dont want to say yet but I have seen it before, its kind of like some of the original lines coming out that created the giants in the first place,a sport of sorts? or just some bleeding out. this person has been breeding giants for many, many years.they are not really brown the last 1 turned black when full grown We are going to keep these till 6 mos. at least to see what happens.

 

[Wynette]

I have just recently heard this same thing from someone else...very interesting, to be sure! I'm glad you're hanging onto them to see how they develop! Have you researched into this at all yet?

 

[Soaring Chicks]

Yes please keep us updated would like to see what happens.
Thanks for posting that. If one had hatched out of my jg's and I had not heard of if I would think the worst.
So it's good someone brought it to light for everyone else can learn along with them.
For the breed we have to work together to better the breed and teach new poultry people about the jg's to help the breed.
It's the full circle of things .
So

to you.

 

[onthespot]

I have brown pop out of my olive egger pen sometimes. They are gorgeous. Here is one, nearing point of lay.

 

[Wynette]

The genetics would be completely different from olive eggers...they are a mixed bag (of GORGEOUS, I might add), so difficult to know what we are getting with them. With the Jersey Giants, the genetics "should" be set.

 

[Blessed]

We have a couple EE with similar colors. BUT, I want some that look like this!!! BEAUTIFUL!!!
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[Wynette]

I've been researching and asking around about these brown chicks that are be popping up - based on consultation with two individuals.......a reputable Giant breeder and a second longtime breeder who is also a judge and who specializes in genetics, they state it is apparent another breed was used (most likely dark cornish) in relatively recent breedings as the breeder apparently hoped it would be an improvement for their particular flock, and that's what this brown color and barring is that is popping up.

My hope would be that folks who do this would let their customers know, though....as it's NOT common practice, and not being honest about it puts us ALL behind - at least those who try to do the right thing by buying from good breeders. While the APA Standard notes that Cornish was added to the line in later years, it's a huge responsibility that a breeder takes on to bring a different breed in. Particularly, when the chicks, down the road, are then sold for profit or otherwise scattered throughout the community and represented as "pure." It also introduces NEW problems that weren't present before..........as if we didn't already have enough going on.

Such practices are responsible for problems like pale or pink underfoot color, pink skin color, the loss of feather quality and richness in the black color and tourquoise sheen, and general size and type issues for the blues. The resulting chicks are further propogated by well-meaning but uninformed people, as well as the consequences of the new breed addition. This could very well even be the case for the last breeder who may have brought "fresh blood" in by buying a breeder Giant from another breeder, not knowing the (non-Giant) genetics the bird carries. It is one of the reasons you find practices by some breeders who maintain closed flocks and "pure black" strains with their black Giants, including the breeder I do business with.

Sorry to sound like a wet blanket, but it's imperative that good information gets out there for those of us wishing to do right by this breed. Just sayin'.

 

[Soaring Chicks]

Well said. Thank you for taking the time to follow up on that and sharing what you found out. As I said before its best if we can keep each other informed about stuff like this. There is alway more then one side of the story.
I still would like to follow info on those chicks they have just for learning. Great points from both parties.
It is also nice to talk about this without everyone fighting and bad mouthing. I think it shows that the jg breeders are open minded and. Not
Snobby like some people with other breeds. Thanks to both of you for this info and the pros and cons.