Just broke up a dog fight. Neighborly help needed :)

[1stepcloser]

They need to learn to contain their dogs. None of that was your fault.

 

[Bunnylady]

Around here, the situation would have been clear-cut. Leash 'em or fence 'em, anything else is against the rules. If Animal Control had been called in, the neighbors would have gotten the citation, not you.

Such a scary situation for your daughter! I'm awfully glad she didn't get hurt - dogs can get pretty stupid about what they put their mouths on in a free-for-all like that. Are the Rottie's puppies still around? She may have felt she was protecting them, even if they weren't "on the scene." Whatever may have been going on with her, dogs read body language a whole lot better than we do; I have no doubt that your dog knew what he was doing. Those dogs weren't being friendly when they approached, and your dog knew that.

For the safety of all concerned, your neighbors need to confine their dogs. Particularly if the Rottie has pups around. There's "bad blood" between her and your dog now. Besides, next time, it might not be another dog that she sees as a threat.

 

[Cloverleaf Farm]

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Well said. I work in an emergency vet clinic, and we get dog fight aftermath all the time, many times between house mates. The one thing that our vets always tell people...it WILL happen again...

 

[RachelFromTheBlackLagoon]

Am I understanding correctly that their dogs were on their own property? There is nothing illegal about that. The vast majority of leash laws state that dogs must be leashed once off of their owners' property. If these people want their dogs to roam free on their own property, they have every right to do so. If your dog got spooked or defensive or whatever and dragged your daughter onto THEIR property, you're right when you say both parties are at fault. It sounds like it was a big mishap and nobody was seriously injured. Accidents happen. I don't think they should be asked to contain their dogs due to this particular incident, because as you said, it was on their own property. However, if their dogs frequently roam your property you probably should've addressed that previously. And I hope no offense is taken by this, but if your daughter isn't strong enough to handle your dog (and I have no idea how old she is, but it sounds like she's a younger child) maybe she shouldn't be allowed to walk him, at least not without an adult present.

Also I just wanted to say, because I see this mentioned very often on this forum, dog aggression and human aggression have nothing to do with each other. Could a dog aggressive dog also be human aggressive? Of course. But just because two dogs get into a scuffle DOES NOT mean that attacking humans is the "next step".

 

[HorseFeatherz NV]

I am very glad your DD is alright - could easily have been a major mess.



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Has MI changed that much since I grew up there? When I was young (70's) , if people knew of dogs were running deer - the dogs went missing. Deer running was a major no-no.

 

[Jamie_Dog_Trainer]

Bad situation that could get much worse, as you know. I wouldn't let your daughter walk your dogs ever again...It's too dangerous and even when the Rott's pups are gone there is now a history if altercations between the dogs. Your dogs should be walked by an adult from now on.

 

[Boyd]

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Rach, I agree with 100% of this.. It did happen on their property, but I do want to mention I did ask them to contain their dogs. It happened for about a month or so..

It was a big mishap, and although my 9 year old was close, my dog would have died keeping the others away from her. Now about her strength... 99.99% of the time he has on a training collar... those big mean things with metal spikes on the inside so if he pulls, he is not only choked, but poked in the throat. Dragging her caused him extreme pain... And him acting without my verbal command tells me he thought it was nescessary. Once I told him stand down he tried to back out of the fight but defended himself only so much till he could get to me. in 99.99% of situations that collar makes him leash friendly to even a 5 year old.

I do agree, my dog is dog aggressive. I told my neighbors this when they moved in when I asked them to leash their dogs and pointed to my 1/2" coated steel cable that his tie off is made of. Human aggressive? Not usually. He has folks he doesn't like but he will stop 5' away, growl and force them to back down. They try to push past him when he's on guard, he'll get em. He will nip their heels

Now if I yell Angrim then he will do whatever it takes to make sure the threat is neutralized. Only areas he avoids by training is armpits, and crotch areas as I don't want a dead perp by dog bite... Just one that's sore and demoralized.

Believe it or not, he's also a big baby when he's off duty. Sleeps on the couch with the people he's bonded to.

Viscious mutt isn't he?

as he strikes a pose....

he also eats chemo kids for breakfast......

 

[Boyd]

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Has MI changed that much since I grew up there? When I was young (70's) , if people knew of dogs were running deer - the dogs went missing. Deer running was a major no-no.

It still is a big no no but when they own the mile of fields all around me..........

If they run one through my property that may be different... But I know the sound of a small pack of dogs hunting.. And have seen them going after my brush pile where I allow a family of cottontails to live year after year

Always have one for the stewpot.

 

[schellie69]

sorry this happened boyd I have a dog that hates most dogs outside our family he doesn't like men either but with me his just a sweet dog but I think any and all dogs would die to protect their owners at least mine would they have proved that, here if your dog is out side your house it better be behind a fence or on a leash having a dog in the front yard with no leash and no fence is a ticket end of story. they have to be contained some way. I am sure your dog read something in those dogs that no human could see he was doing what he was supposed to take care of the pack. if he pulled with that kind of collar on and is trained the way you described then he knew those dogs where trouble. I don't think your dog did anything wrong. good luck with his wounds and hopefully now the neighbors will think about leashing or fencing in their dogs.

 

[Boyd]

see, this is the quandry, I think I'm in the right, but I still feel bad it happened to them. My dog will definately recover fine and dandy.. But I don't know if the friendship will, and now beast the wonder mutt will be gunning for that rotty. I am surprised he didn't rip its throat out to be honest