My husband refers to "them" as the Generation of the Entitled. They are entitled to everything under the sun and no, they really shouldn't have to work for anything.
Ha!
Ha!
Just can't bite my tongue on this one..
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*hugs herself and reminds herself that she is a more special snowflake....
But let's face it, there are many, many, many people out of work right now and a lot of them have higher degrees, better GPAs, more experience and better references than this idiot. I HATE this attitude and it is only becoming more prevalent with our college age set. Nothing is ever their fault. Fail a class? Clearly the teacher has it out for them. Never mind that the student seldom came to class and never turned in assignments. ARGGGGG!!! barnie
Im a generation Xer maybe....32? BUT....I have taught at two different colleges, part time for 3 years, but now I am full time for the last three at a university.
The attitude you mention could not be more true.
Them: I got a D???? But I came to class.
Me: Right, but you get a zero for coming to class, you earn your grades on assignment.
Them: Can I have a C+. If not, it will ruin my whole life and financial aid and it will be your fault since you GAVE me the C+.
Me: No, I will not. You EARNED a D+ and I was gracious enough to curve it to a C-.
Them: But I came to class, stayed awake and I didnt even cheat!
Them: Hello Prof H. I know I am currently getting an F and the final exam is tomorrow but what do I need to do to get a B.
Me: You cant. You would have to retake the class.
Them: Really, but what is I write a paper about a famous chemist or something?
ME: How does that teach you the fundamentals to prepare you for the next chemistry class?
Them: SO you wont GIVE me a B?
Seriously, I can go one for HOURS about these types of things I get every single semester. It still surprises me. Somehow it ends up being my fault. They are late, dont turn in assignments, sleep in class and are upset about the grade I GIVE them, not the one they EARNED.
SO yeah, this article reminds me of work!
ETA: This is definitely not true for all my students. There are some great, bright and hardworking young individuals going out into the job world right now! They will do well since they know the value of work.
Im a generation Xer maybe....32? BUT....I have taught at two different colleges, part time for 3 years, but now I am full time for the last three at a university.
The attitude you mention could not be more true.
Them: I got a D???? But I came to class.
Me: Right, but you get a zero for coming to class, you earn your grades on assignment.
Them: Can I have a C+. If not, it will ruin my whole life and financial aid and it will be your fault since you GAVE me the C+.
Me: No, I will not. You EARNED a D+ and I was gracious enough to curve it to a C-.
Them: But I came to class, stayed awake and I didnt even cheat!
Them: Hello Prof H. I know I am currently getting an F and the final exam is tomorrow but what do I need to do to get a B.
Me: You cant. You would have to retake the class.
Them: Really, but what is I write a paper about a famous chemist or something?
ME: How does that teach you the fundamentals to prepare you for the next chemistry class?
Them: SO you wont GIVE me a B?
Seriously, I can go one for HOURS about these types of things I get every single semester. It still surprises me. Somehow it ends up being my fault. They are late, dont turn in assignments, sleep in class and are upset about the grade I GIVE them, not the one they EARNED.
SO yeah, this article reminds me of work!
ETA: This is definitely not true for all my students. There are some great, bright and hardworking young individuals going out into the job world right now! They will do well since they know the value of work.
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That has got to be the best label I've heard for them yet. What is the age range of that generation? I think DH's kids fall in there perfectly.
That has got to be the best label I've heard for them yet. What is the age range of that generation? I think DH's kids fall in there perfectly.
Don't know how it works in all states but witnessed this when we lived in GA.
They voted on and passed a state lottery and proceeds were used to fund education at colleges and universities. Called the Hope Grant or Hope Scholarship Program, you were elligible if you got A's or B's. Seems like a good idea, encourage lower income kids to go to college and get good grades all paid for by lottery lovin' people.
Here was the problem..... colleges and universities liked the free state money so much that professors were encoraged to give A's and B's to keep the money flowing. If they were to give C's, D's or actually fail someone the university revenue source was affected. This was bad for the university and obviously bad for the student. So much like high school these students got through college with 3.5 GPA's and college degrees.
It got so bad that when we hired these so-called college graduates we actually had to test them on core knowledge just to find out if they really learned anything. By looking at some of their resumes and applications I would say alot of them got through high school by avoiding English classes.
I know there are folks in Georgia that will be offended by what I have written. Or went to college in Georgia and thought it was hard which is not to say that there are not any excellent schools in GA, I am just saying we lived in a town where there was a state university and the graduates still ended up working at Wal-Mart.
Sorry for anyone I have offended in advance. Mia Culpa. My bad.
They voted on and passed a state lottery and proceeds were used to fund education at colleges and universities. Called the Hope Grant or Hope Scholarship Program, you were elligible if you got A's or B's. Seems like a good idea, encourage lower income kids to go to college and get good grades all paid for by lottery lovin' people.
Here was the problem..... colleges and universities liked the free state money so much that professors were encoraged to give A's and B's to keep the money flowing. If they were to give C's, D's or actually fail someone the university revenue source was affected. This was bad for the university and obviously bad for the student. So much like high school these students got through college with 3.5 GPA's and college degrees.
It got so bad that when we hired these so-called college graduates we actually had to test them on core knowledge just to find out if they really learned anything. By looking at some of their resumes and applications I would say alot of them got through high school by avoiding English classes.
I know there are folks in Georgia that will be offended by what I have written. Or went to college in Georgia and thought it was hard which is not to say that there are not any excellent schools in GA, I am just saying we lived in a town where there was a state university and the graduates still ended up working at Wal-Mart.
Sorry for anyone I have offended in advance. Mia Culpa. My bad.
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Same here. DH and I are under age 30.
Methinks the situation has a lot to do with how one was raised and what one feels entitled to.
Entitlement has to do with parenting and family values...generational differences count somewhat, but generalizing an entire generation doesn't really work so well.
At any rate, she's never going to be able to land a job now, unless some business thinks it will benefit from becoming involved in all the drama.
Same here. DH and I are under age 30.
Methinks the situation has a lot to do with how one was raised and what one feels entitled to.
At any rate, she's never going to be able to land a job now, unless some business thinks it will benefit from becoming involved in all the drama.
Well ... I'm 40 I believe I'm right on the crust of Generation X.
I've Worked hard at raising my children, and for them to be responsible adults. I always told them you get out of life what you put into it. Nothing MORE!
I believe I raised 5 very well rounded Children! I've let them fail at things, and they came out the better for it.
I get so discouraged at some of the kids today. Some feel life owes them. Others feel whats the point, their is nothing out there for me, so they will not even try. (relying on Mom and Dad.)
I have a step son who is married and lives at home with his wife. (NOT MY HOME... His mothers) He has a collage degree and feels this is OK. All I can do is shake my head and try to keep my mouth shut. (near imposable) My children are all younger than him and are way more mature.
Like I said ... I'm proud of my kids.
I've Worked hard at raising my children, and for them to be responsible adults. I always told them you get out of life what you put into it. Nothing MORE!
I believe I raised 5 very well rounded Children! I've let them fail at things, and they came out the better for it.
I get so discouraged at some of the kids today. Some feel life owes them. Others feel whats the point, their is nothing out there for me, so they will not even try. (relying on Mom and Dad.)
I have a step son who is married and lives at home with his wife. (NOT MY HOME... His mothers) He has a collage degree and feels this is OK. All I can do is shake my head and try to keep my mouth shut. (near imposable) My children are all younger than him and are way more mature.
Like I said ... I'm proud of my kids.
I REALLY hope that this case gets laughed right out of court! That is unbelieveable!
I'm a Gen-Xer, too. I'm 31. I'm not currently in the work force, but that kind of attitude just makes me so mad!
My husband worked really hard in college and graduated with a 3.76 in Nuclear Engineering!! He said in college if you hand in an assignment and got a 95% on it - that is a fabulous grade! But, in the work force, if you submit a document/do a job that is only 95% correct, you'll get called on the carpet big time!!!!! That young lady is in for a very rude awakening, if she ever gets a job!
My husband worked really hard in college and graduated with a 3.76 in Nuclear Engineering!! He said in college if you hand in an assignment and got a 95% on it - that is a fabulous grade! But, in the work force, if you submit a document/do a job that is only 95% correct, you'll get called on the carpet big time!!!!! That young lady is in for a very rude awakening, if she ever gets a job!
Not all us youngens(yep Im 25) got things handed to them. I had to work hard for everything I got. I dont expect things to get handed to me. If I want it I got to work to get it, simple as that! But I do agree with other people lots of my generation do. They just expect thigns to be given to them and act like idiots when it doesnt go their way. Such as this girl.
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i blame Mr Rogers. he told everyone they were special - and they believed him. um... so... not to be a downer but if EVERYONE is special than be definition we are all 'average'
i worked for one of the hip, urban, and superfly software companies in the internet boom... we hired the best, most urban, most superfly. many many MBA superstar wizkids couldnt take it... they were not special anymore. EVERYONE was hip, urban, and superfly. you have no idea how many people - ADULT people - were in my office crying about this. then they quit. the rest of us did their jobs and mopped up the mess.
for heaves sakes people man up!
oh well. i'm sure they will figure it out. in the meantime - parents of today- please dont raise another 'gimme' generation.
sigh.... going to go close the gate.. keeping head down.. realizing i'm an old fuddyduddy and am not hip, urban, nor superfly.... and happy about it.
i worked for one of the hip, urban, and superfly software companies in the internet boom... we hired the best, most urban, most superfly. many many MBA superstar wizkids couldnt take it... they were not special anymore. EVERYONE was hip, urban, and superfly. you have no idea how many people - ADULT people - were in my office crying about this. then they quit. the rest of us did their jobs and mopped up the mess.
for heaves sakes people man up!
oh well. i'm sure they will figure it out. in the meantime - parents of today- please dont raise another 'gimme' generation.
sigh.... going to go close the gate.. keeping head down.. realizing i'm an old fuddyduddy and am not hip, urban, nor superfly.... and happy about it.
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