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Just how useful is a rooster anyway?

How useful is a rooster? In my opinion the only reason you NEED a rooster is if you want fertile eggs. They are kind of essential for that. As far as I'm concerned everything else is personal preference. Personal preference can be pretty strong, there are valid reasons some people like a rooster around but others are quite happy to not have one.

Each chicken, male and female, has its own personality. Each flock has its own dynamics, which can change if you remove or add an individual. You are going to get different results with different individuals, that's just the way it works with living animals.

Some roosters, not all, will help a hen take care of her chicks or might help take care of young brooder-raised chicks if you integrate them. From what I've seen most won't but it can happen. When my cockerels harass mature hens they run to the mature dominant rooster who stop that harassment, at least temporarily. If you don't have young chicks or immature cockerels in your flock this doesn't matter.

A good mature rooster will keep peace in his flock. As always some are better than others. A rooster might break up fights between hens or he may just watch. He may or may not protect a weak individual. If he thinks a weak individual is endangering his flock, either disease or a weak animal can attract predators, he may run the weak chicken away or even kill it.

Some roosters tend to keep a flock of hens together with him. Others allow the hens to wander around as they will. Keeping them all together may make it a little harder for some predators to pick one off. Some roosters make sure all their hens are on the roost before they go to bed but most of mine don't.

Many roosters call the hens when they find food and allow the hens to eat frost. I'm not convinced this actually helps the hens, they are usually capable of finding plenty of food on their own. It does make it easier for him to mate a hen.

If something suspicious is happening, a rooster will often go to investigate. It might be a predator, it might be a piece of plastic flapping in the wind. It could be me holding a camera. He puts himself between the hens and whatever it is and checks it out. I think this behavior generates a lot of the stories about a rooster sacrificing himself for his flock. Sacrifice is not his intention but if he checks it out he is at more risk.

Some roosters will attack other animals. I've seen a rooster keep crows away from food I've put out for the flock. I personally haven't seen it but I believe the stories where a rooster attacks a small hawk that has attacked one of his flock. A rooster may scare a cat or squirrel away from the flock or he may ignore them. Mine avoid big snakes.

If you do not have a dominant rooster in your flock the dominant hen may take over some of the flock master duties. Usually not all the duties and usually not as well as a mature dominant rooster would. As I said each flock has its own dynamics.

The behavior you saw with the fox is pretty typical. Once a threat has been identified my roosters tend to attempt to lead the flock to safety instead of forming a rear guard. I think you are more likely to get a broody hen to protect her chicks than you are to have a rooster try to protect his flock from most predators. Before I got my electric netting I had two dogs attacks. One time I lost 8 chickens, one time 5. Both times the dominant rooster survived unmarked.

Some people just like the eye candy, roosters tend to be prettier than the hens. Some people like the personality, roosters are usually bolder than the hens. This starts when they are young chicks. Some people like the sound of the crowing, some don't. We are as individual as our chickens.

How useful are roosters? Even if you don't want fertile eggs they are not totally useless. But if I did not want fertile eggs I would not bother to feed one.
 
What is it exactly you expect from your rooster?
I think your getting behavior you might wish from from a boyfriend, or husband confused with another species.:)
Of course he runs from a fox. He's not stupid!
Did you notice if he gave a warning call to his hens?
Do you think he should fight the fox? Seems like a rather unequal match to me.
Roosters are not equipped to fight predators. they are equipped to fight each other.
Honestly, words fail me.:he

A good rooster does a lot of things that help to protect their flock that often go unnoticed.
As others have correctly ime, mentioned; cockerels are pretty all round hopeless. That's youth in any species. If they don't die and grow up in a mixed age flock with a senior rooster, but often more important, a senior hen then the survivors will learn. It seems to me the poor cockerels aren't in with a chance with some people and are expected to know what to do and when to do it because they are males.
What about your hens? Maybe they feel safer having him around. Maybe the hens like how he stops the usual hen bickering, maybe while they're busy stuffing their faces while he stands guard they feel more secure. Maybe when they go to look for nest sites they like to have a cockerel, or rooster accompany them. Maybe they like the mating knowing that if that big predator on two feet doesn't steal their eggs they might be able to hatch some chicks.
Maybe people who want to keep chickens should learn a bit about what motivates a rooster and what he actually does for his hens.
Of course, if you just want to keep a few hens and not really keep chickens at all, then by all means don't have a rooster.

Wow! I think I’ve learned as much about BYC members as I have about roosters from this post! You’d think I was hitting my rooster or starving my flock of basic needs by the level of condescension!

I didn’t try to get a rooster because I knew it was out of my league as a beginner. And of course I studied up. That’s how I managed to raise five healthy and happy chickens on my first ever go-round. And of course, I come here to ask questions as they occur to me. Because I want to know more and be a better flockster. So thanks to all who managed to give useful insight and info, without being a jerk about it!

May be useful info: the chickens were doing a LOUD “egg song” before I saw the fox. I read the post about the egg song being an escort call. Could it also be an alarm? I’m not sure if the rooster started it or not, but on reflection it is certainly true that the rooster gives plenty of warning noises and that alone makes him worth having.
 
When things had calmed down and I went to reassure the hens that all was well again, I found the rooster, as always, mounting his girls. And I just thought, you useless, cowardly creature. You haven't earned that right.
Did you not think the above likely to elicit some strong responses?
 
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Wow! I think I’ve learned as much about BYC members as I have about roosters from this post! You’d think I was hitting my rooster or starving my flock of basic needs by the level of condescension!
:lol::lau:lol: (Not AT you, WITH you, 'cause I GET it!)
Yup - that's the SECOND lesson for chicken-people ... The first being the dreaded concept of "Chicken Math!" Lesson Two is about the human factor ... we're all as different as our chickens! I look at it this way ... it takes lots of different personalities to make a flock dynamic work. It takes a lot of the same to make a human "flock" work, as well. Maybe that's the secret behind BYC. Lots of different approaches and perspectives are one of the best things about this site. It's why we can learn so much in so little time ... from so many people. It's also a great way to hone your sense of humor ... and practice patience!
 
How useful is a rooster? In my opinion the only reason you NEED a rooster is if you want fertile eggs. They are kind of essential for that. As far as I'm concerned everything else is personal preference. Personal preference can be pretty strong, there are valid reasons some people like a rooster around but others are quite happy to not have one.

Each chicken, male and female, has its own personality. Each flock has its own dynamics, which can change if you remove or add an individual. You are going to get different results with different individuals, that's just the way it works with living animals.

Some roosters, not all, will help a hen take care of her chicks or might help take care of young brooder-raised chicks if you integrate them. From what I've seen most won't but it can happen. When my cockerels harass mature hens they run to the mature dominant rooster who stop that harassment, at least temporarily. If you don't have young chicks or immature cockerels in your flock this doesn't matter.

A good mature rooster will keep peace in his flock. As always some are better than others. A rooster might break up fights between hens or he may just watch. He may or may not protect a weak individual. If he thinks a weak individual is endangering his flock, either disease or a weak animal can attract predators, he may run the weak chicken away or even kill it.

Some roosters tend to keep a flock of hens together with him. Others allow the hens to wander around as they will. Keeping them all together may make it a little harder for some predators to pick one off. Some roosters make sure all their hens are on the roost before they go to bed but most of mine don't.

Many roosters call the hens when they find food and allow the hens to eat frost. I'm not convinced this actually helps the hens, they are usually capable of finding plenty of food on their own. It does make it easier for him to mate a hen.

If something suspicious is happening, a rooster will often go to investigate. It might be a predator, it might be a piece of plastic flapping in the wind. It could be me holding a camera. He puts himself between the hens and whatever it is and checks it out. I think this behavior generates a lot of the stories about a rooster sacrificing himself for his flock. Sacrifice is not his intention but if he checks it out he is at more risk.

Some roosters will attack other animals. I've seen a rooster keep crows away from food I've put out for the flock. I personally haven't seen it but I believe the stories where a rooster attacks a small hawk that has attacked one of his flock. A rooster may scare a cat or squirrel away from the flock or he may ignore them. Mine avoid big snakes.

If you do not have a dominant rooster in your flock the dominant hen may take over some of the flock master duties. Usually not all the duties and usually not as well as a mature dominant rooster would. As I said each flock has its own dynamics.

The behavior you saw with the fox is pretty typical. Once a threat has been identified my roosters tend to attempt to lead the flock to safety instead of forming a rear guard. I think you are more likely to get a broody hen to protect her chicks than you are to have a rooster try to protect his flock from most predators. Before I got my electric netting I had two dogs attacks. One time I lost 8 chickens, one time 5. Both times the dominant rooster survived unmarked.

Some people just like the eye candy, roosters tend to be prettier than the hens. Some people like the personality, roosters are usually bolder than the hens. This starts when they are young chicks. Some people like the sound of the crowing, some don't. We are as individual as our chickens.

How useful are roosters? Even if you don't want fertile eggs they are not totally useless. But if I did not want fertile eggs I would not bother to feed one.
So you wouldn't keep a rooster unless you wanted fertile eggs then (?).
 
May be useful info: the chickens were doing a LOUD “egg song” before I saw the fox. I read the post about the egg song being an escort call. Could it also be an alarm? I’m not sure if the rooster started it or not, but on reflection it is certainly true that the rooster gives plenty of warning noises and that alone makes him worth having.

There is a call very similar to the egg song that I'd call more of a distress call than an alarm call. I've heard it a few times. I don't know which one started it but they all got pretty wound up. I don't know what started it.
 

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