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Hey All!
My husband and I always chatted about having quail, and one day in the markets we spotted some Jumbos for sale, and just bought two straight away! After a week, we extending our flock couple of days ago (went to a farm and suppose to only get 2 or 3 more hens, but the man was really friendly and gave us 4!!).... looking after birds is new to both of us, and are feeling pretty confident...but need to clarify somethings.



All these guys are about 6 - 7 weeks old, the Roo(?) is the rossetted(?) one on the far left in front of the golden girl

The farmer vent sexed the four he gave us, however the two from the markets were colour tested...which we started questioning the roo, so I ended up trying to vent sex both myself, and I am pretty sure it is a roo...the other market girl is the golden in the box.... Moreover, the boy made the same sound as this guy when we played the video to him
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However,
I was after a male:female ratio of 1:3 or 1:4 maximum ....given the extra bird, is 1:5 too many females??

They don't seem to really be fighting, I assume the pecking at each other's back is to establish a "pecking order"...none seem injured or look distressed...is that ok? or are they really distressed and I cant tell????

When we introduced them, we put a divider in the cage to keep the new ones separated from the original 2, then left them there for the arvo and night...then the next day I took the cage outside for a new enviroment (and so I could clean the tray =P) and put them all together (they all seem happy, and not fighting)...they are all back inside today... is all this moving around stressing them out?? and not letting them settle?

The first two seem fine with being moved in and out, and love to go out for their grass...we just bring them in at night for risk of snakes and coldness during the night, which leads me to my next question: It is still winter here in Australia, If we did leave the cage outside at night, is it too cold with the nights lowest around 6 degrees celcius, average of 8deg???

And we quickly converted a 30.5" x 19.5" x 23" dog carrier cage (with removable tray, now has a mesh wire over it, we use when the birds are inside)... We want to build a proper coop for these guys, are these dimensions ok for 6quail ? (hence why I was scared of having too many when we got the free one...)

Does temperature affect egg laying? cause inside the house we turn on a light for them...

also I was told they don't like direct sunlight...some of the new ones were choosing to do some sun bathing yesterday though???

Also, after reading about dust baths, is beach sand ok to use for a dust bath?? we're not far from the coast and poped-by yesterday to pick up some sand, which they seem to love...but I am worried about them eating it =\

Lastly, when I get things right...how long would it take them to settle and start expecting eggs? the farmer said his girls are ready laying...?? Should I put some nesting material in the box like straw etc?

Just to clarify, for now they are being used for eggs, and later in late spring/summer try for some chicks for meat...probably next year we will bring in a white boy from out of state, trying to keep diversity and heaps of colours with our flock ;)

Woah, that is alot to ask, So sorry! Sorry for all the questions, I am sure they are all the answers are written somewhere in this forum, just having a bit of difficulty finding everything... Together, have or grown up with: Dogs, cats, horses, fish, turtles, rabbits, and mice, so having birds and understanding them are new to both of us! Nonetheless super excited!!
 
Hey All!
My husband and I always chatted about having quail, and one day in the markets we spotted some Jumbos for sale, and just bought two straight away! After a week, we extending our flock couple of days ago (went to a farm and suppose to only get 2 or 3 more hens, but the man was really friendly and gave us 4!!).... looking after birds is new to both of us, and are feeling pretty confident...but need to clarify somethings.



All these guys are about 6 - 7 weeks old, the Roo(?) is the rossetted(?) one on the far left in front of the golden girl

The farmer vent sexed the four he gave us, however the two from the markets were colour tested...which we started questioning the roo, so I ended up trying to vent sex both myself, and I am pretty sure it is a roo...the other market girl is the golden in the box.... Moreover, the boy made the same sound as this guy when we played the video to him
lol.png

However,
I was after a male:female ratio of 1:3 or 1:4 maximum ....given the extra bird, is 1:5 too many females?? 1:5 is a good ratio. Any less, and the males can mate the females literally to death.

They don't seem to really be fighting, I assume the pecking at each other's back is to establish a "pecking order"...none seem injured or look distressed...is that ok? or are they really distressed and I cant tell???? Keep an eye on this behavior in that it does not turn violent. Separate out any aggressors immediately before blood flows.

When we introduced them, we put a divider in the cage to keep the new ones separated from the original 2, then left them there for the arvo and night...then the next day I took the cage outside for a new enviroment (and so I could clean the tray =P) and put them all together (they all seem happy, and not fighting)...they are all back inside today... is all this moving around stressing them out?? and not letting them settle? They prefer to stay put, but the are also highly adaptable.

The first two seem fine with being moved in and out, and love to go out for their grass...we just bring them in at night for risk of snakes and coldness during the night, which leads me to my next question: It is still winter here in Australia, If we did leave the cage outside at night, is it too cold with the nights lowest around 6 degrees celcius, average of 8deg??? No, that is not too cold for them. But do not put them in danger of night time critters that might eat them. Snakes included.

And we quickly converted a 30.5" x 19.5" x 23" dog carrier cage (with removable tray, now has a mesh wire over it, we use when the birds are inside)... We want to build a proper coop for these guys, are these dimensions ok for 6quail ? (hence why I was scared of having too many when we got the free one...) Barely. But it will work. Do not add any more birds.

Does temperature affect egg laying? cause inside the house we turn on a light for them...Cooler temps will affect egg laying and generally quail are seasonal layers, laying only spring thru fall. If you want eggs year round, (which is not really recommended, give the birds a break), you can add heat and 14 to 16 hours of light.

also I was told they don't like direct sunlight...some of the new ones were choosing to do some sun bathing yesterday though??? Quail enjoy sun bathing to remove mites and improve feather health, however they should be allowed to get out of the sun for the most part.

Also, after reading about dust baths, is beach sand ok to use for a dust bath?? we're not far from the coast and poped-by yesterday to pick up some sand, which they seem to love...but I am worried about them eating it =\ Beach sand will work and is also ok for them to eat, as long as they do not gorge on it. Even damp dirt out of your yard will work perfectly fine.

Lastly, when I get things right...how long would it take them to settle and start expecting eggs? the farmer said his girls are ready laying...?? Should I put some nesting material in the box like straw etc? It will take them a few weeks to get back to laying and I would try not to move them around much until the adjust to the new surroundings. You don't have to offer then straw or hay, but they will surely appreciate it. Grass hay works really well for bedding. Even straw or other hays work well too.

Just to clarify, for now they are being used for eggs, and later in late spring/summer try for some chicks for meat...probably next year we will bring in a white boy from out of state, trying to keep diversity and heaps of colours with our flock ;)

Woah, that is alot to ask, So sorry! Sorry for all the questions, I am sure they are all the answers are written somewhere in this forum, just having a bit of difficulty finding everything... Together, have or grown up with: Dogs, cats, horses, fish, turtles, rabbits, and mice, so having birds and understanding them are new to both of us! Nonetheless super excited!!

Enjoy your new quail adventures!!!
 
One seems sick =/

I was picking them up to move them out for a bit whilst I clean out the cage, and one of the girls...just felt weak
This one coming from the farmer, I'm affraid among the masses she picked up something.... So before I accidently kill off everyone, is it okay to worm them?
 
If these were my birds, I would go ahead and worm everybody. Many times these quail farms are loaded with worms, bacteria and viruses. Isolate this bird for sure. If you are noticing any respiratory issues, you might want to use antibiotics on the entire flock.

Does this bird have any symptoms...diarrhea, runny nose, watery eyes, swollen face, dirty vent, mites, etc...?
 
well, I can't see anything crawling around anyone, so I assume that means no mites...
someone has diarrhea, can't pin point if it is this one....can't see any other symptoms... but a bit of weight loss, which made me think worms...
Is laying on the side a symptom? She just seems to lay on her side with a wing seems a bit spread? but other than that she walks around and hops around find when I come in to clean out the water
 
well, I can't see anything crawling around anyone, so I assume that means no mites...
someone has diarrhea, can't pin point if it is this one....can't see any other symptoms... but a bit of weight loss, which made me think worms...
Is laying on the side a symptom? She just seems to lay on her side with a wing seems a bit spread? but other than that she walks around and hops around find when I come in to clean out the water
Poultry like to lay on their sides with wings stretched, feathers fluffed up while sun bathing to help rid them of microscopic feather mites. If this is all she was doing, this is totally natural behavior. Try putting some probiotics in the water for a week. Stress can cause diarrhea.
 
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Cheers guys and especially tocrowsranch! Ur really my mentor in all this!! =D

So....Ahhh!!! It happened! Today I found my first egg! And a moment ago I just found my second!!

Ok, so I read somewhere that someone said for hatching quail it is better to wait for a couple of months into the laying season, and it allows for better fertility?

Also, if I just want to eat the eggs, can I take it out straight away? I also read that it could be better to leave the eggs in for a week before taking them out? Why is this? Is this just if I want to hatch them? Or to not stress out the birds?
 

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