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Well,,,,, let me throw in my opinion here. I'm not one in favor of feeding my chickens on a science diet. Chickens have been around since dinosaurs, and before humans, and there was no Purina back then.
I feed my chickens Alflock, since I have layers, and Geriatric non-layers. :old Alflock is 18% protein, and 2% calcium. Of course I provide Oyster shells free-choice. I also liberally give them scratch, and bird seed grains. Yes... I do break the Federations' rule of 10% BIG TIME.:gig:lau.. Chickens also get all kitchen scraps, and anything else eatable. NO sweets or spoiled junk. They free-range in backyard when I'm around. Their run is is also large with plenty of things to scratch thru.
All my chickens live long lives. I also do not eat my chickens. I do eat chickens from the store regularly. and LUV:love the Colonel💕:hugs

So let me view and comment on the Dumor 20%. It is not carried by my feed store, and I have no reason to search it out. Am happy with the feed they carry.
I,,, would not hesitate feeding it for the rest of the chickens lives. Everyone, (feed producers) will have slight differences in trace amounts of ingredients. It is the formula that each company decides is their BEST.

Now comes the 20% protein question.
Game bird feed is minimum 20% and up to 28% or higher.
The 20% feeds are recommended for chickens. I don't think chickens are going to start dying of organ failure from such protein amounts. Higher than necessary protein amounts tend to produce runnier stools, and somewhat smellier than normal. This happens usually if there is a high spike in amount.

Some things about protein;
If chickens are getting this 20% feed, and free-range, and get treats, then their total dietary protein intake get watered down to below the 20%.

Chickens that lay eggs, need protein to produce eggs. So for example, you feed your chicken this higher protein feed, you may achieve 300 eggs per year from said chicken. Same chicken fed a lower protein feed like 16% (industry low percentage to get optimum $$$ out of your hens) will produce less eggs in a given year, given all other factors being same.
I don't have charts and numbers with amounts of eggs, but basic science. You cant get out more if you put in less.
Protein is the higher cost ingredient in feed. That is why everyone tries to get by with as little cost as possible to make a nicer looking bottom line.:old

Hope this puts your mind at ease, about your feed. :highfive:
Let me add something to this valuable information. Thanks for adding to the conversation.

The more eggs your chickens lay in a single year, the more likely they are to have reproductive issues. I am not advocating starving your hens of protein, rather, unless you are in the egg production business, I do not suggest you artificially raise their protein intake in order to get more eggs. It could deleterious effects on your hens.
 
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So I looked up the Dumor Chick Grower that you are using along with Purina Layena and what I use which is Flock Party Egg Maker Crumbles. Dumor does not list the ingredients for their Layer feed online. The comparison is listed below.


Dumor 20% Chick GrowerFlock Party Egg Maker CrumblesPurina Layena
Protein (min)
20.00%​
16.00%​
16.00%​
AshN/AN/A
16.00%​
Lysine
1.00%​
0.80%​
0.70%​
Methionine
0.50%​
0.35%​
0.30%​
Fat (min)
3.00%​
3.00%​
2.50%​
Fiber (max)
6.00%​
7.00%​
Not listed
Calcium (min)
1.00%​
3.50%​
3.25%​
Calcium (max)
1.50%​
4.50%​
4.25%​
Phosphorus (min)
0.70%​
0.55%​
0.45%​
Salt (min)
0.25%​
0.25%​
0.30%​
Salt (max)
0.75%​
0.75%​
0.80%​
Sodium (min)Not Listed
0.01%​
not listed
Sodium (max)
0.50%​
0.50%​
not listed
Manganese (min)100 ppm100 ppm
Microorganisms (min)
Vitamin A3000 IU/lb
Vitamin E12 IU/lb

There are not a lot of significant differences as you can see. A couple of things to point out.

There is no Manganese listed in the grower. A manganese deficiency in layers leads to birth defects in chicks. I guess if you are not going to hatch the eggs it wont be a problem but it is put into the egg and your layers will run out of it if they don't get it elsewhere in their diet.

The Phosphorus content is also down in the layer feeds. I guess that more is probably required for growing. I need to look that up.

If you are going to switch to a layer feed, I highly recommend the Happy Flock. My TSC has it. It has no ASH. How they can put ASH into chicken feed is beyond me but all of the other layer feeds I looked at had ASH as a major component. Happy Flock does not. It also has probiotics in it which I like.

I was just doing this exercise the other day with All Flock feeds as i need to switch because Lilly no longer lays.
Thank you for going to the trouble to show me this comparison.
My girls are fully grown and laying so I think I need to make a switch.
 
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Well,,,,, let me throw in my opinion here. I'm not one in favor of feeding my chickens on a science diet. Chickens have been around since dinosaurs, and before humans, and there was no Purina back then.
I feed my chickens Alflock, since I have layers, and Geriatric non-layers. :old Alflock is 18% protein, and 2% calcium. Of course I provide Oyster shells free-choice. I also liberally give them scratch, and bird seed grains. Yes... I do break the Federations' rule of 10% BIG TIME.:gig:lau.. Chickens also get all kitchen scraps, and anything else eatable. NO sweets or spoiled junk. They free-range in backyard when I'm around. Their run is is also large with plenty of things to scratch thru.
All my chickens live long lives. I also do not eat my chickens. I do eat chickens from the store regularly. and LUV:love the Colonel💕:hugs

So let me view and comment on the Dumor 20%. It is not carried by my feed store, and I have no reason to search it out. Am happy with the feed they carry.
I,,, would not hesitate feeding it for the rest of the chickens lives. Everyone, (feed producers) will have slight differences in trace amounts of ingredients. It is the formula that each company decides is their BEST.

Now comes the 20% protein question.
Game bird feed is minimum 20% and up to 28% or higher.
The 20% feeds are recommended for chickens. I don't think chickens are going to start dying of organ failure from such protein amounts. Higher than necessary protein amounts tend to produce runnier stools, and somewhat smellier than normal. This happens usually if there is a high spike in amount.

Some things about protein;
If chickens are getting this 20% feed, and free-range, and get treats, then their total dietary protein intake get watered down to below the 20%.

Chickens that lay eggs, need protein to produce eggs. So for example, you feed your chicken this higher protein feed, you may achieve 300 eggs per year from said chicken. Same chicken fed a lower protein feed like 16% (industry low percentage to get optimum $$$ out of your hens) will produce less eggs in a given year, given all other factors being same.
I don't have charts and numbers with amounts of eggs, but basic science. You cant get out more if you put in less.
Protein is the higher cost ingredient in feed. That is why everyone tries to get by with as little cost as possible to make a nicer looking bottom line.:old

Hope this puts your mind at ease, about your feed. :highfive:
Good points. And I do feed the greens I mentioned every evening (since there is currently no grasses or greens growing at this time). I also give them crickets once a week as a special treat. I guess the greens and the small amount of scratch do dilute the total protein intake.
I guess my biggest worry is the calcium. They eat a LOT of Oyster shell.
 
I was just trying to be comprehensive in case someone who didn't know came across the post. There was no implied lack of knowledge on your part. Sorry. :oops:
This is the problem with the written word...I wasn't thinking that was the case at all...just explaining my train of thought! I would never think that of you Bob :hugs and if I'm wrong about something, I would certainly hope you or anyone else would let me know...it does happen on occasion, just don't tell hubs I admitted that...:D
 
This is the problem with the written word...I wasn't thinking that was the case at all...just explaining my train of thought! I would never think that of you Bob :hugs and if I'm wrong about something, I would certainly hope you or anyone else would let me know...it does happen on occasion, just don't tell hubs I admitted that...:D
I promise that will remain our little secret.
 

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