Khaki, Dun, Platinum Sumatra

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by Soli, Aug 7, 2011.

  1. Soli

    Soli Chillin' With My Peeps

    Sep 18, 2010
    I've looked at the thread on Sumatra in general and am curious about the genetics of Khaki, Dun, and Platinum in the breed. I know that those colors are not APA recognized, but are being developed by several breeders.

    How do these colors relate (if they do) and are they dominant/recessive, etc? I am interested in continuing a Khaki/ Platinum line (Although wouldn't Khaki be better named "Champagne"?)
  2. josh44

    josh44 Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jun 16, 2008
    San Antonio Texas
    What's a platinum sumatra ?
    Have any pics ?
  3. Illia

    Illia Crazy for Colors

    Oct 19, 2009
    Forks, WA
    Far as I was always concerned, Khaki and Platinum Sumatras are the same thing. Gorgeous birds!

    All of them are basically E/E extended black,

    Black Sumatras also have i+/i+

    Khaki Sumatras have I^d/I^d

    Dun Sumatras have I^d/i+

    Breeding them works the same as blue. Dun works like blue, Khaki works like splash.

    Dun x Dun = Dun, Black, Khaki

    Dun x Khaki = Dun, Khaki

    Khaki x Khaki = Khaki
    Last edited: Aug 7, 2011
  4. Henk69

    Henk69 Chillin' With My Peeps

    Nov 29, 2008
    Groesbeek Netherlands
    Platinums are het blue and het dun
    Khaki are double dose dun
    The colors are very similar, but khaki may be a bit more brownish/yellowish

    Khaki are almost white on a black breasted red type chicken (not melanized).
    Melanized chickens get the more typical color.
  5. Soli

    Soli Chillin' With My Peeps

    Sep 18, 2010
    Great, you answered the basic genetic color questions I needed to know.

    Now to find more dun/khaki sumatras...I heard the word platinum bandied around and wasn't sure if it was the same as khaki or not.
  6. nicalandia

    nicalandia Overrun With Chickens

    Jul 16, 2009
    Quote:Quote:Here a pic of Platinum Blue that Mr. Henk is working on...[​IMG]
  7. smoothmule

    smoothmule Chillin' With My Peeps

    Apr 12, 2008
    Buffalo, Missouri
    I now have 4 hens and 1 cock, large fowl Dun Sumatra's. Two hens are to arrive this week but I have the trio at my son's. He hatched a chick that looks white. What do I need to add to produce the khaki color that is a pale taupe color like you commented is brownish? I don't know the genetics of the black Sumatra's, would a cross out to a black hen be a good choice with my cock since he's the father to the white chick? What I am "really" hoping is that this isn't a recessive white chick.... I would not be really happy. Probably not likely, but considering another breed was used several generations back to bring the dun gene to the Sumatra breed so you never can tell right?
  8. Henk69

    Henk69 Chillin' With My Peeps

    Nov 29, 2008
    Groesbeek Netherlands
    If the white chick is in fact khaki, it should become dark enough because of all the Sumatra melanizers. Duns and khaki start out very light and become darker with age.

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