Khaki, Dun, Platinum Sumatra

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by Soli, Aug 7, 2011.

  1. Soli

    Soli Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I've looked at the thread on Sumatra in general and am curious about the genetics of Khaki, Dun, and Platinum in the breed. I know that those colors are not APA recognized, but are being developed by several breeders.

    How do these colors relate (if they do) and are they dominant/recessive, etc? I am interested in continuing a Khaki/ Platinum line (Although wouldn't Khaki be better named "Champagne"?)
     
  2. josh44

    josh44 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    What's a platinum sumatra ?
    Have any pics ?
     
  3. Illia

    Illia Crazy for Colors

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    Far as I was always concerned, Khaki and Platinum Sumatras are the same thing. Gorgeous birds!


    All of them are basically E/E extended black,

    Black Sumatras also have i+/i+

    Khaki Sumatras have I^d/I^d

    Dun Sumatras have I^d/i+



    Breeding them works the same as blue. Dun works like blue, Khaki works like splash.

    Dun x Dun = Dun, Black, Khaki

    Dun x Khaki = Dun, Khaki

    Khaki x Khaki = Khaki
     
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  4. Henk69

    Henk69 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Platinums are het blue and het dun
    Khaki are double dose dun
    The colors are very similar, but khaki may be a bit more brownish/yellowish

    Khaki are almost white on a black breasted red type chicken (not melanized).
    Melanized chickens get the more typical color.
     
  5. Soli

    Soli Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Great, you answered the basic genetic color questions I needed to know.

    Now to find more dun/khaki sumatras...I heard the word platinum bandied around and wasn't sure if it was the same as khaki or not.
     
  6. nicalandia

    nicalandia Overrun With Chickens

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    Quote:Quote:Here a pic of Platinum Blue that Mr. Henk is working on...[​IMG]
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  7. smoothmule

    smoothmule Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Henk,
    I now have 4 hens and 1 cock, large fowl Dun Sumatra's. Two hens are to arrive this week but I have the trio at my son's. He hatched a chick that looks white. What do I need to add to produce the khaki color that is a pale taupe color like you commented is brownish? I don't know the genetics of the black Sumatra's, would a cross out to a black hen be a good choice with my cock since he's the father to the white chick? What I am "really" hoping is that this isn't a recessive white chick.... I would not be really happy. Probably not likely, but considering another breed was used several generations back to bring the dun gene to the Sumatra breed so you never can tell right?
     
  8. Henk69

    Henk69 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    If the white chick is in fact khaki, it should become dark enough because of all the Sumatra melanizers. Duns and khaki start out very light and become darker with age.
     

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