Kholmogory geese

[poultrymaniac]

Hello everyone. I have recently learned of a goose breed called kholmogory geese. I have never seen these before, but they look like an African with a deeper keel and bigger dewlap. They are supposably a cross between European and Asian geese. I wonder if anyone knows of anyone in the USA that breeds these? I’ve found breeders in Europe. Here is a pic and link with more info:

https://www.fondazioneslowfood.com/en/ark-of-taste-slow-food/kholmogory-goose/

 

[Miss Lydia]

Never heard of this breed but they sure are gorgeous.

 

[Nodaksnakelover]

never heard of it...but if you can't get them, could one breed it by crossing an Embden with a "Super African" and then select from there?

 

[Gray Farms]

I've seen White Africans at a sale in KS that look very similar to these. Not quite as deep of a keel but just as large as these appear to be. No idea who brings them, but there is usually one or two pairs there every year.

 

[donkeydew2farms]

Those are fine looking birds I have 1 African that has a keel like that he is a buff . I will have to take a picture of him. I thought he was deformed a bit.

 

[poultrymaniac]

never heard of it...but if you can't get them, could one breed it by crossing an Embden with a "Super African" and then select from there?

From what I have researched, their exact origin is unknown, but they say they might be a cross of chinese and arzamas geese, arzamas geese being another breed that I cannot find, but it looks kinda like an embden. I would say a cross between super african, embden, and also add in a little dewlap toulouse for the keel.

 

[poultrymaniac]

Those are fine looking birds I have 1 African that has a keel like that he is a buff . I will have to take a picture of him. I thought he was deformed a bit.

I think an underlying problem with "deformed geese" is that most of the geese sold in hatcheries are not really the pure breed, so they dont always look how you expect. Also as a side note, there are probably all kinds of poultry breeds we dont know about and that have gone extinct without us knowing because back way back, each little society probably had their own unique geese, probably to the point where each little village everywhere had bred their own unique goose. Mass takeover by the embden and toulouse has probably wiped out many of these unique breeds to the point where we will never really ever know the the real extent of how many goose breeds existed in the world.

 

[poultrymaniac]

Here is some more info I have found: http://geomedia.top/kholmogory-breed-of-geese/

It talks about how their were once many different lines of them, but only two remain. They talk of how there might be some tula in them ( a type of russian fighting goose) Ive seen tulas from time to time.

 

[donkeydew2farms]

Well found a pic. Of beaver I guess he. Is not deformed be is still young and growing.i got these Africans from Holderreads. c

 

[poultrymaniac]

Well found a pic. Of beaver I guess he. Is not deformed be is still young and growing.i got these Africans from Holderreads. View attachment 1227560c

He looks great to me, Dave Holderread’s birds are among the best quality you can get in America, and probably in the world for that matter.