Killing predators

I do agree with all of you who are speaking on behalf of cooperating with nature and protecting predators. We should work with nature and not against it. Please note that although I now have the ability to kill a "nuisance" predator, I have not had to do so and hope I never do. After that raccoon reached in and grabbed one of our pullets through the field fencing around our run and tried to pull it through, beheading it, we reinforced that fence with a double layer of chicken wire and have had no subsequent losses. (Hwc would have been cost-prohibitive; it's a very large run.) Destroying a raccoon that has developed a taste for chicken seems like a sensible response to me. Preventing them from doing so is even better. As they say in national parks, "A fed bear is a dead bear."

Rather than eliminating bears and cougars, perhaps we would do well to respect their space and run and jog in the city rather than through mountains and forests they are known to inhabit. Just my opinion. Again, once a large predator like that develops a taste for human flesh, there's no way to rehabilitate it. It had to be destroyed. That's why I said I would shoot a predator that got one of my chickens. If I relocated it, it would just become someone else's problem, only now it would be trap-wise as well.
 
I'm not afraid of anything killing my chickens .I live in the hills of West Virginia so I built a sturdy coop and run out of pallets to deter coons,coyotes and bears. We have a ton of aerial predators so its got a good top.An electric fence wrapped around it is my back up plan.I hate killing anything but wouldn't hesitate to protect my flock from being killed.I live in a residential area so we can't come out guns blazing.Prevention is the best method sorry.
 
I have nothing inherently against eliminating a problem animal but I do agree with a lot of others in that I find it disheartening that so many kill then ask questions later.

I don't have plans in place for when the eventual predator attack occurs. I know I won't be killing anything unless absolutely necessary. I would rather work with the natural instincts of predatory animals to make my chickens less appealing than other food sources.

I was going to go on a long rant about how I look at predators but I realized that I recently watched a documentary called "The Biggest Little Farm" that really addresses how I view working with the land instead of against it. They had a major coyote issue in that documentary when it came to their chickens. In the end, the coyotes were the solution to their ground squirrel issues in their orchard. I highly recommend everyone watches it as it takes a holistic approach on farming (even if you don't farm).

Finally, there is lots of evidence that elimination simply doesn't work. The US Fish and Wildlife Service kills tens of thousands of coyotes each year to "protect" livestock. Meanwhile, there is research that suggests killing coyotes results in higher fecundity and thus a rise in the coyote population. This is not the source I learned it from (I have a background in biology/ecology and learned it in my studies) but I know many folks want sources: https://www.npr.org/2019/06/14/7300...-as-effective-as-once-thought-researchers-say

This is a little tangential but... Coyotes only became a problem in much of the country when we eliminated wolves in most of the US. Wolves controlled coyotes. In fact, the first confirmed coyote sighting in Vermont wasn't until one was shot in 1948. Their eastward expansion can be directly attributed to the removal of the region's apex predator. They aren't as good at bringing down large game (thus the deer population issues in many parts of the country) but they do fulfill many of the important rolls previously occupied by wolves.
 
I would rather have the foxes and bobcats around eating the voles and such. And affecting the behavior of the prey ... https://wildlife.org/study-shows-yellowstone-wolves-impact-on-streams/
This is part of the reason my chickens are secured. And will be when they are pastured also, when I (eventually) get the chicken tractor done.
I started to go that route but didn't. Instead I built a 200 sq ft coop & run out of pallets that filters the sun and conceals the flock from aerial predators.I don't have a big enough yard for a tractor and the dogs too.I was hoping my Basset could be trained to "protect" my chickens but wasn't able to train him .He's 3 yrs old.
 
Hi everyone. We have a flock of 5 (was 6 but one was killed yesterday by a bobcat) hens in upstate NY. Before I got chickens, I was always against killing animals even if they caused damage. Now that I have chickens and just last night experienced the nightmare of losing one to a predator, my feelings are changing. My husband is for trapping and killing the bobcat. I am on the fence but leaning towards killing it because I am so disturbed about how it killed our beloved chicken and worried about it doing more in the future.

Just interested in reading the thoughts and opinions of others on this issue: killing predators of backyard flocks. Have you done it before? Chosen not to? Etc.
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