Kitchen in coop

[Pineconechick]

Sounds like Idaho is very laid back on the food rules. I live in AZ now, they would let me sell baked goods from a home, non-commercial kitchen. I would have to have an inspected commercial kitchen to sell something like home-canned salsa. We can sell eggs as nest-run up to 750 dozen. More than that would have to be graded and inspected. In California and Washington, where I have lived, you need a license to sell any eggs. I just sold to friends, the illegal egg pusher!

Yes! Washington requires a lot of licensing!

Lol, breaking the law huh?

 

[Parront]

Yes! Washington requires a lot of licensing!

Lol, breaking the law huh?

Yeah, everything I do is illegal! If every law was enforced, we would all be in jail!

 

[Parront]

Your kitchen sounds wonderful. I am green with envy, I will be using the extra kitchen as is, no cool features like yours. Small propane stove with a small oven, extra refrigerator to be determined. We are adding a propane wall heater. When not in use as an AirBnB, I want to use it to make said baked goods for our Farmer's Market. I doubt I will have so many eggs that I would need to sell them, except as baked goods. AZ also has a liberal pet food rule, so extra birds are potential dog food.

 

[Pineconechick]

Your kitchen sounds wonderful. I am green with envy, I will be using the extra kitchen as is, no cool features like yours. Small propane stove with a small oven, extra refrigerator to be determined. We are adding a propane wall heater. When not in use as an AirBnB, I want to use it to make said baked goods for our Farmer's Market. I doubt I will have so many eggs that I would need to sell them, except as baked goods. AZ also has a liberal pet food rule, so extra birds are potential dog food.

Thanks! I would love to see your set up if you ever get a chance to take pictures!

 

[Parront]

Thanks! I would love to see your set up if you ever get a chance to take pictures!

I posted a photo earlier, some cleaning has been done, and painting is progressing, since it is required to get a VA loan. Here is a photo I have:

The kitchen is in a separate building, next to the garage with the antlers. The prospective chicken quarters is the metal sided lean-to attached to the garage. It has a water faucet inside and obviously was animal housing before all the siding was installed. Right now it is just full of wood and termites!
Here is a sketch done by the appraiser:

The kitchen is in the area labeled "guest area". Not convienently attached, but not far since our lot is 1/2 acre and nothing is too far. No big operation like yours, but I will be able to do stuff in the kitchen that I do not want to do in the house, like can some cockerels or bake, and then go into the air-conditioned house when I am done! Plan is to install a swamp cooler on the wall to the right of the sink counter in the photo, not enough electrical service in the old building for an A/C. I would love to learn more about the heating system you are installing -- how much power do you need for it? My husband is an electrician, and we are pretty handy. Would it be suitable for slab floors?

 

[Pineconechick]

Oh yeah I did see that...I think that’s really nice!

Electrical service is a problem for us as well, we don’t know yet. But the heating system won’t take much. I think he is planning on a gas tankless water heater. Not sure if he means an off grid one or not though.

I have a question if you don’t mind since your husband is an electrician...do the numbers on the switches on the electrical box coincide with how much that thing pulls? My husband says we need an electrician to look at it to see how much of our allotted amps we are using but I thought maybe we could figure it out...

 

[Parront]

It is possible to have more circuits added up than your service. If you use them all at the same time, your main breaker will trip. So, it is difficult for you to tell what your service is, especially in an old out building like the one in my photos. Ted is going to test it after we move in. It also matters what size of wire is used, and what your local code is. Long story short, you are best off calling a local electrician. What is code in WA state, where we are from, can be different from ID.

 

[Pineconechick]

I see, well I guess we will go with the original plan then. Thanks though!

Keep all those antlers

 

[Parront]

I see, well I guess we will go with the original plan then. Thanks though!

Keep all those antlers

Might even get some more antlers, deer walk right through the yard! (Hoping to change their route)!
Wish I could be more help. I would not want to steer you wrong, though. For example, our mobile home has breakers that add up to 150 amps on a 50 amp service, Ted knows it is 50 amp by the size of the main breaker, but it is not marked "50".

 

[Pineconechick]

Yeah no problem, I think we have a 200 amp service but my house is pretty large and has multiple heat sources. We also have a large shop and two small outbuildings with electricity but only lights and a couple outlets. We knew the man who lived here before us (he was a family friend and my husband used to help him around here), he was an electrician and the kind of guy who knew what he could get away with. We have lights EVERYWHERE! If it was dim it got a light. Hopefully we have more available than originally thought! Someone offered me 2 huge incubators for a good price and I would like to buy them but not if we can’t run them-lol