Lacey is back for round two 😔 - Reproductive issues

[Wyorp Rock]

If she's rallying, then I'd put her back with the flock and let her chicken.

You realize to stop her from laying she will need to be in darkness (with no light) for 16hrs each day right?

Are you keeping her separated?

 

[Weeg]

Update: Lacey is fighting like a trooper. Gave her a disk this afternoon, and her spirits seem to be up. We sat in the sun the air dry and she was still happy to forage around. She even did a flapping leap when the ring picked up. She’s a trooper that’s for sure. Eating done scrambled eggs and banana, preening, it’s a good afternoon for us. So far so good, I’m hopeful for Lacey so far.

 

[Tookie]

Update: Lacey is fighting like a trooper. Gave her a disk this afternoon, and her spirits seem to be up. We sat in the sun the air dry and she was still happy to forage around. She even did a flapping leap when the ring picked up. She’s a trooper that’s for sure. Eating done scrambled eggs and banana, preening, it’s a good afternoon for us. So far so good, I’m hopeful for Lacey so far.
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Glad she's fighting on! So basically she's like this because she had a prolapse?

 

[Weeg]

So I’m back with a question. After keeping a close eye on Lacey for these last few days, I’m actually starting to wonder if what I’m actually dealing with us vent gleet like previously questioned. Im just not seeing any reproductive issue symptoms.
Vent gleet fits her symptoms perfectly.


-missing or soiled feathers around the vent

-sour crop

-red or swollen vent- can be bloody if severe case - I would say irritated vent

-loose stools

-decrease or cessation of egg laying

-depression

-decreased appetite or increased appetite - slightly decreased

-loss of weight

-Whitish patches/lesions in the mouth

-pasting of vent feathers

-swollen bloated abdomen - slightly and it comes and goes.

I think I’m actually dealing with vent gleet rather than a reproductive issue. Which I am not unhappy about.

From what I’ve read, it’s caused by a yeast infection. I’m going to add ACV to her water which kills yeast, and give her a direct dose as well. Keep up with Oil of Oregano since it is an immune booster and should help kill yeast as well. I should have done fermented vegetables done by tomorrow, but I have done high quality soil based probiotics I’ll give her too. I also know digestive enzymes given away from food will combat yeast, so I’ll go that as well.
I’ll use calendula cream around her vent and bathe daily.
Thoughts? Never combatted vent gleet before, but I much prefer it over a reproductive issue.
I’ll update as I go! Also, thank you @Tookie
For giving me that idea. I’ll would have taken longer for me to figure that out had you not put that bug in my ear.

 

[Tookie]

So I’m back with a question. After keeping a close eye on Lacey for these last few days, I’m actually starting to wonder if what I’m actually dealing with us vent gleet like previously questioned. Im just not seeing any reproductive issue symptoms.
Vent gleet fits her symptoms perfectly.


-missing or soiled feathers around the vent

-sour crop

-red or swollen vent- can be bloody if severe case - I would say irritated vent

-loose stools

-decrease or cessation of egg laying

-depression

-decreased appetite or increased appetite - slightly decreased

-loss of weight

-Whitish patches/lesions in the mouth

-pasting of vent feathers

-swollen bloated abdomen - slightly and it comes and goes.

I think I’m actually dealing with vent gleet rather than a reproductive issue. Which I am not unhappy about.

From what I’ve read, it’s caused by a yeast infection. I’m going to add ACV to her water which kills yeast, and give her a direct dose as well. Keep up with Oil of Oregano since it is an immune booster and should help kill yeast as well. I should have done fermented vegetables done by tomorrow, but I have done high quality soil based probiotics I’ll give her too. I also know digestive enzymes given away from food will combat yeast, so I’ll go that as well.
I’ll use calendula cream around her vent and bathe daily.
Thoughts? Never combatted vent gleet before, but I much prefer it over a reproductive issue.
I’ll update as I go! Also, thank you @Tookie
For giving me that idea. I’ll would have taken longer for me to figure that out had you not put that bug in my ear.

It does sound like vent gleet, glad I mentioned it! Your treatment plan sounds good! I would use the ACV, greek yogurt, and garlic. Make sure to keep her clean as possible, you may want to do epsom salt baths. I use homeopathy too, so do use the calendula. There is also homeopathy pellets called candida albicans, its used for yeast infections, you could get that.

 

[Weeg]

It does sound like vent gleet, glad I mentioned it! Your treatment plan sounds good! I would use the ACV, greek yogurt, and garlic. Make sure to keep her clean as possible, you may want to do epsom salt baths. I use homeopathy too, so do use the calendula. There is also homeopathy pellets called candida albicans, its used for yeast infections, you could get that.

Thanks! I’ll start garlic tomorrow.
So far I’ve got ACV, probiotics, garlic. Doing radon salt soaks can calendula salve topically. I have a tincture too, in this case us if helpful orally? It’s an anti inflammatory.
Awesome! I’ll see if I can get ahold if that. How to you dose it? I usually dissolve the human dose in a dropper, then give a dose of that every 15 minutes until I see improvement. Should I do it that way or differently in this case?

 

[Wyorp Rock]

Updated photos before you clean her up?
Does the discharge smell yeasty?

I would give her plain fresh water, plain fresh feed. Let her out and roam with her flock. Keep watch on her and monitor her but let her do her chicken thing.

I might be missing something. Let's bring you back to reality here. I don't see Vent Gleet. I see a hen that is recovering from severely damaged tissue and prolapse about 4wks or so in. It takes time for things to get back to "normal" if they ever really do. The scabbing is possibly residual from the original damage. A damaged vent/cloaca will often leak. Give it time to heal. If you need to do anything, apply a bit of barrier cream under the vent to help keep urates from sticking and burning the skin.

My 2¢

Your Photos. One is from about a month ago to now. She's still healing, give her time.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/bantam-hen-with-bloody-discharge-coming-from-vent.1537237/

 

[Tookie]

Thanks! I’ll start garlic tomorrow.
So far I’ve got ACV, probiotics, garlic. Doing radon salt soaks can calendula salve topically. I have a tincture too, in this case us if helpful orally? It’s an anti inflammatory.
Awesome! I’ll see if I can get ahold if that. How to you dose it? I usually dissolve the human dose in a dropper, then give a dose of that every 15 minutes until I see improvement. Should I do it that way or differently in this case?

Not sure about the tincture.
For the pellets I just pop them in the mouth, I give 3 at a time about 2 or 3 times a day. Candida albicans can also help with sour crop.

 

[Weeg]

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Updated photos before you clean her up?
Does the discharge smell yeasty?

I would give her plain fresh water, plain fresh feed. Let her out and roam with her flock. Keep watch on her and monitor her but let her do her chicken thing.

I might be missing something. Let's bring you back to reality here. I don't see Vent Gleet. I see a hen that is recovering from severely damaged tissue and prolapse about 4wks or so in. It takes time for things to get back to "normal" if they ever really do. The scabbing is possibly residual from the original damage. A damaged vent/cloaca will often leak. Give it time to heal. If you need to do anything, apply a bit of barrier cream under the vent to help keep urates from sticking and burning the skin.

My 2¢

Your Photos. One is from about a month ago to now. She's still healing, give her time.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/bantam-hen-with-bloody-discharge-coming-from-vent.1537237/
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I agree they she’s still healing. It’s a slow process, and she’s definitely not done yet.

I want to say the discharge smells sour, fermented might be a good word, definitely not normal chicken poop smell. That was what concerned me originally, and has me now thinking vent gleet.

Here’s a pic, the discharge is white and almost crystally.

She has a bowl of plain and ACV water, probiotics, and digestive enzymes.

I could be jumping to conclusions, just glad this is not round two, and would be happy to be wrong about it. Thsnks so much for the input, I appreciate it.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

Well if you think it's Vent Gleet then treat her.