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Information by Nathalie Ross Texas threehorses" on Coccidiosis.
Try and read this as possibilities for... the hens lethargic problem and runny poo
GlendaHeywood
I will give some items to think about
(1 do any of them not eat or drink yet?
(2 do you see any signs of blood in the manure?
can be slightly if first day
most times they only drink not eat
(3 for coccidiosis I like amproylium best generally corid
but most feed stores don't stock it
My friend here gives some info on coccidiosis
Nathalie Ross" "threehorses"
(1 coccidiosis I think it might be helpful for you to know that coccidia are
very VERY hard to trace in a fecal. When I worked as a vet tech, it
was common procedure to go ahead and treat with a combination
antibiotic/antiprotazoan medication like Sulfa products (Sulmet being the most
common) based on symptom diagnosis rather than physical evidence of the oocysts. use Sulmet to treat them for coccidiosis
(3 gut bacteria ..............................................................................
At 7 weeks, the babies are still in the
process of getting their gut bacteria in order. See, they're born
without any bacteria at all in their gut. So they eat at day 2, and put
food in there as a food source for themselves but also for bacteria.
Basically, it's first-come-first-serve for bacteria.
If the bad ones get
there first, they take over and your birds get ill. IF there are some
good but mostly bad, the same thing happens.
If you give your birds
probiotics (substances containing live beneficial bacteria) your GOOD
bacteria will have the advantage.
Those good bacteria crowd out the bad,
make it impossible for the bad bacteria to live in anything but minimal
numbers, and thus help your birds to stay healthy.
So I always
recommend giving probiotics weekly from week 2 til point of lay. Then I move
to once a month or as needed.
You can use live-culture yogurt
(1 teaspoon per 8 newly hatched, moving up to 1 teaspoon per point of lay
bantam, 1 tablespoon per point of lay large fowl - no more please).
You can
also use powdered livestock probiotics (Probios dispersable powder
being my absolute favorite - it's the choice of exotic bird breeders, and I
also have hookbills).
Or, you can go to the human health food store
and pick up a human supplement like "acidophilus" (Lactobacilus
acidophilus), or a combination of acidophilus and B. bifidum sold to combat
yeast infections.
The latter is a particular useful thing for a poultry
hobbiest to have. The addition of b. bifidum helps combat thrush.
Thrush is essentially a yeast infection that is common to birds because of
the way their crops store feed in wet conditions.
Things tend to get
fungus and yeast there, and thus the yeast infection. That infection
goes throughout the bird's system and is really a mess, so that
bifidum/acidophilus mix is the best.
Try to find a non-dairy liquid, and you'll
have the ultimate probiotic.
(4 E.Coli ................................................................................
.............THIS IS VERY PERTANT FOR YOUR BIRDS
In case your babies are said to have an infection of E. coli (most
likely case) then you can try putting some vitamin E in their feed.
......................................................................
THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR YOUR BIRDS NOW
( GLH- advises using the 1000 mg capsules cut end off and squeeze into wet mash.
and putting in a wet mash for them to eat.
( use one capsule Vit E per bird treating and do this twice a day for a week.
Vitamin E helps fix E. coli overpopulations.
You know what else helps fight
E. coli? Guess:
b. bifidum. It secrets a substance that E. coli just.
can't stand. See where this is going?
Nathalie Ross, Houston, TX
Put the amt of corid in the gallon of water for 7 days.
also make this wet mash with corid for two mornings.
when they finish it clean out the wet feeders and restock the dry feed.
if using corid 9.6%.
for 9 chicks:
18 tsp OF of dry mash
36 tsp of water
add 2 tsp of corid 9.6% to the water.
feed 2 tsp per chicken for a feeding.
feed this two mornings to get the medication in the birds.
also at same time put the corid or sulmet in the drinking water for 7 days.
each chick get 2 tbsp of the wet mash with coccidiosis meds.
speckled hen gives corid(9.6%) liquid in 3-4 tsp of corid per gallon of water
and after medicating give the following things.
THIS IS FOR YOUR CHICKS NOW
the corid amproylium will work for coccidiosis.
THIS IS FOR YOUR CHICKS NOW GLH
but now you have a difficient gut problem with the E.coli.
and it needs to have the Vitamin E put in the wet mash probiotic to help the E.coli gut problem.
do this
now the
natural probiotic recipe is :
1/2 qt of dry crumbles.
3/4 QT of milk, sweet, sour, or buttermilk or a mixture of all or some.
1/4 cup of non flavored yoguart ( no artificial sweetner)
.good.
YOU CAN ADD LAST ON TOP OF WET MASH.
1/4 CUP OF APPLE SAUCE AS THEY WILL EAT THAT GOOD.
NOW THE IMPORTANT INGRIEDIENT FOR EACH CHICK FED.
and add 1- 1000 mg of Vit E by cutting the end off the vit E capsule for each chick. fed this wet mash.
putting it in the wet mash.
this for each chick your treating.
so for each chick use 2 tbsp of mixture and 1-1000 mg of Vit E.
twice a day for them till the manure is solid.
and feed each chick.
2 tbsp full of the wet mash probiotic and what they will clean up in 20-30 minutes
then clean wet feeders and restock dry crumbles.
do this twice a day for a week.
till the chicks manure is right.
then quit the Vit E make just the wet mash probiotic.
then once a week for life.
All the while after medicating the birds use ACV IN THE WATER
do not use ACV with medication.
2 tbsp of apple cider vinegar per gallon of the chicken water so their gut flora wil be regulated.
they should have this at least 3-5 days a week.
then three days a week after they are over coccidiosis.
the vit's are neccessary to clean up the damaged gut problem.
Glenda L Heywood Cassville Missouri
Information by Nathalie Ross Texas threehorses" on Coccidiosis.
Try and read this as possibilities for... the hens lethargic problem and runny poo
GlendaHeywood
I will give some items to think about
(1 do any of them not eat or drink yet?
(2 do you see any signs of blood in the manure?
can be slightly if first day
most times they only drink not eat
(3 for coccidiosis I like amproylium best generally corid
but most feed stores don't stock it
My friend here gives some info on coccidiosis
Nathalie Ross" "threehorses"
(1 coccidiosis I think it might be helpful for you to know that coccidia are
very VERY hard to trace in a fecal. When I worked as a vet tech, it
was common procedure to go ahead and treat with a combination
antibiotic/antiprotazoan medication like Sulfa products (Sulmet being the most
common) based on symptom diagnosis rather than physical evidence of the oocysts. use Sulmet to treat them for coccidiosis
(3 gut bacteria ..............................................................................
At 7 weeks, the babies are still in the
process of getting their gut bacteria in order. See, they're born
without any bacteria at all in their gut. So they eat at day 2, and put
food in there as a food source for themselves but also for bacteria.
Basically, it's first-come-first-serve for bacteria.
If the bad ones get
there first, they take over and your birds get ill. IF there are some
good but mostly bad, the same thing happens.
If you give your birds
probiotics (substances containing live beneficial bacteria) your GOOD
bacteria will have the advantage.
Those good bacteria crowd out the bad,
make it impossible for the bad bacteria to live in anything but minimal
numbers, and thus help your birds to stay healthy.
So I always
recommend giving probiotics weekly from week 2 til point of lay. Then I move
to once a month or as needed.
You can use live-culture yogurt
(1 teaspoon per 8 newly hatched, moving up to 1 teaspoon per point of lay
bantam, 1 tablespoon per point of lay large fowl - no more please).
You can
also use powdered livestock probiotics (Probios dispersable powder
being my absolute favorite - it's the choice of exotic bird breeders, and I
also have hookbills).
Or, you can go to the human health food store
and pick up a human supplement like "acidophilus" (Lactobacilus
acidophilus), or a combination of acidophilus and B. bifidum sold to combat
yeast infections.
The latter is a particular useful thing for a poultry
hobbiest to have. The addition of b. bifidum helps combat thrush.
Thrush is essentially a yeast infection that is common to birds because of
the way their crops store feed in wet conditions.
Things tend to get
fungus and yeast there, and thus the yeast infection. That infection
goes throughout the bird's system and is really a mess, so that
bifidum/acidophilus mix is the best.
Try to find a non-dairy liquid, and you'll
have the ultimate probiotic.
(4 E.Coli ................................................................................
.............THIS IS VERY PERTANT FOR YOUR BIRDS
In case your babies are said to have an infection of E. coli (most
likely case) then you can try putting some vitamin E in their feed.
......................................................................
THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR YOUR BIRDS NOW
( GLH- advises using the 1000 mg capsules cut end off and squeeze into wet mash.
and putting in a wet mash for them to eat.
( use one capsule Vit E per bird treating and do this twice a day for a week.
Vitamin E helps fix E. coli overpopulations.
You know what else helps fight
E. coli? Guess:
b. bifidum. It secrets a substance that E. coli just.
can't stand. See where this is going?
Nathalie Ross, Houston, TX
Put the amt of corid in the gallon of water for 7 days.
also make this wet mash with corid for two mornings.
when they finish it clean out the wet feeders and restock the dry feed.
if using corid 9.6%.
for 9 chicks:
18 tsp OF of dry mash
36 tsp of water
add 2 tsp of corid 9.6% to the water.
feed 2 tsp per chicken for a feeding.
feed this two mornings to get the medication in the birds.
also at same time put the corid or sulmet in the drinking water for 7 days.
each chick get 2 tbsp of the wet mash with coccidiosis meds.
speckled hen gives corid(9.6%) liquid in 3-4 tsp of corid per gallon of water
and after medicating give the following things.
THIS IS FOR YOUR CHICKS NOW
the corid amproylium will work for coccidiosis.
THIS IS FOR YOUR CHICKS NOW GLH
but now you have a difficient gut problem with the E.coli.
and it needs to have the Vitamin E put in the wet mash probiotic to help the E.coli gut problem.
do this
now the
natural probiotic recipe is :
1/2 qt of dry crumbles.
3/4 QT of milk, sweet, sour, or buttermilk or a mixture of all or some.
1/4 cup of non flavored yoguart ( no artificial sweetner)
.good.
YOU CAN ADD LAST ON TOP OF WET MASH.
1/4 CUP OF APPLE SAUCE AS THEY WILL EAT THAT GOOD.
NOW THE IMPORTANT INGRIEDIENT FOR EACH CHICK FED.
and add 1- 1000 mg of Vit E by cutting the end off the vit E capsule for each chick. fed this wet mash.
putting it in the wet mash.
this for each chick your treating.
so for each chick use 2 tbsp of mixture and 1-1000 mg of Vit E.
twice a day for them till the manure is solid.
and feed each chick.
2 tbsp full of the wet mash probiotic and what they will clean up in 20-30 minutes
then clean wet feeders and restock dry crumbles.
do this twice a day for a week.
till the chicks manure is right.
then quit the Vit E make just the wet mash probiotic.
then once a week for life.
All the while after medicating the birds use ACV IN THE WATER
do not use ACV with medication.
2 tbsp of apple cider vinegar per gallon of the chicken water so their gut flora wil be regulated.
they should have this at least 3-5 days a week.
then three days a week after they are over coccidiosis.
the vit's are neccessary to clean up the damaged gut problem.
Glenda L Heywood Cassville Missouri
