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strangley enough it was the other way around at one time the english came back over here and imported US version back to england they had been out of national square garden winners. , it was long time ago..the english were concentrating on the type and not on the size so they lost a lot of size once they got back on track they started doing what americans were doin and breeding to strapping big hens..lot of their small hens went into australorp projects.., it is in one of the old books we downloaded to kindle..there are some great old books out there and no one writes books as well today about the subject of orpingtons as the old timers...it is in standard orpingtons or william cooks book, I can find it and post it..these books go so much into detail about color and are so interesting that the are invaluable as a resource
Thanks for the interesting info and would love to know the names of the books.
from shell to showroom
the orpington by william cook
standard bred orpingtons
there are a couple others which i just forgot with my short memory and i just looked at them...they are all free for your kindle or nook through several universities including cornell online library..great reference books for everything.pictues through development to indepth reading for color breeders to indepth interesting notes like sometimes your best breeders are not your show birds ect...ect...