Lavender Orpington project ....

where are you from, I have lavenders and excellent blacks, I am selling project packs locally and only a few, in the pack are 3 black and 3 lav chicks or 6 black and 6 lav eggs, they go very fast, my lavs are from greenfire with nice size, my blacks are from a guy in indy, and hard to come by since he won't sell eggs or chicks, he gave me some to work on my project, and they are the best I have seen.
 
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i did alot of serching at getting new lavenders the ones i bought last year are not the best stock to work on towards hitting standard.hodges farms had the best looking orps i saw we ordered some aswell.they were good size with nice color an no long tails like you often see in peoples lavs.we will be doing a few breeding pens next year with black roo over lav hens an lav roo over black hens.we cant wait to get our little fuzzy butts let me know when you get them what you think of them.
 
Actually, we agree. They must meet both the Standard for Orpingtons and the color Standard for Self Blue. Until they can meet both the breed Standard and the color Standard, they are still a project bird. Meeting one or the other is not enough.
 
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Disagree. They will be Orps long before they are even presented to the APA for approval. Awaiting approval itself does not make them projects. "THE project," is getting Orp type consistently. The Lavender color is already there.

You are welcome to your opinion. This is mine.
 
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I am interested!
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IMO a bird is considered pure when it looks like the breed it is supposed to represent and breeds true to that standard. All breeds are the makeup of a cross of breeds to create them - all orp varieties included. It is once they meet the expectations of the American Standard of Perfection when they are considered the breed. Of course that is the opinion of one's own visual interpretation. If someone takes a lavender orp project bird to a show and wins for that variety, does that make it an orpington? I guess so, since the judge thought it looked like one. There are a LOT of project birds out there. Anyone wanting to obtain good birds should do their homework. Some are putting a lot of work into their birds and others are not..simple as that. We will yet again be working on ours this year and I highly encourage anyone with them to continue working on their improvement or wait for those of us who are focused on making them what they should be.
 
I'll post photos of all my chicks when I get them for your insight. I was reading a few threads back that if you breed a lavender to a lavender, you pretty much always get another lavender. What is the purpose of using black orpingtons then? Is it to be sure that the the birds are orpingtons? Genetic diversity? What happens when you breed splits to splits and splits to lavender?

Does everyone mind sharing with me details of their breeding projects. How many roosters, hens you have? What colors are with which? How many generations you have and what you're doing with each generation? What you look for in the baby chicks and which ones you keep and which ones you cull or pass on? What challenges have you faced with each generation and which traits are you working on right now? I want to do this right.

Thanks again!
 

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