Layena Causing Egg Laying Problems

[The Yakima Kid]

The King non-GMO...is that Hilands All Natural feed from Rural King?

No, it is made by L.A. Hearne Company in King City, CA.

http://king-brand.com/new/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=1&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=6

 

[tomsrunpoultry]

Assuming improper nutrition at a young age is the problem, what is now the solution? I'm just concerned that the eggs are all too often too big for these bantams to be laying.

 

[Fancychooklady]

Assuming improper nutrition at a young age is the problem, what is now the solution?  I'm just concerned that the eggs are all too often too big for these bantams to be laying.

Take a look at the science. There is a clear link between linoleic acid, methionine and increased egg size. It's no coincidence that the feed companies add to the formula. My advice would be to check the labels on the feed and find one that doesn't contain either of these additives.

 

[1muttsfan]

Since methionine and linoleic acid are needed in the diet, perhaps a diet that is not oversupplemented rather than one with none added at all - just about anything is bad for you when either under or overdosed.

 

[Fancychooklady]

I've just had a quick look at some of the labels and it seems that the going rate of methionine is 0.35% . The organic ones have a lower rate at 0.25% . As for linoleic acid that will come under ' omega 6.
I agree with the post above , 'everything in moderation '.

 

[tomsrunpoultry]

Here are the ingredients in Hiland Naturals non-GMO Layer feed....not sure it's all that much better than Layena..

Hiland Naturals
Complete Layer 17% NGM
COMPLETE FEED FOR LAYING CHICKENS
GUARANTEED ANALYSIS
Crude Protein, Not less than……..................…...16.0 %
Lysine, Not less than ...........................................0.85 %
Methionine, Not less than .................................. 0.25 %
Crude Fat, Not less than...................................... 4.0 %
Crude Fiber, Not more than.................................. 5.0 %
Calcium (Ca), Not less than...................................3.5 %
Calcium (Ca), Not more than ................................4.5 %
Phosphorus (P), Not less than..............................0.50 %
Salt (NaCI), Not less than......................................0.3 %
Salt (NaCI), Not more than ...................................0.8 %
INGREDIENTS
Corn, Oats, Wheat, Sunflower Seed, Whole Roasted
Soybeans, Soybean Meal, Peas, Alfalfa Meal, Fish
meal, Oyster Shells, Methionine, Supplement, Calcium
Carbonate, Salt, Monocalcium / Dicalcium Phosphate,
Sea Kelp Ferrous Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Zinc
Oxide, Copper Sulfate, Iron Oxide, Ethylenediamine
Dihydriodide,, Sodium Selenite, Folic Acid, Vitamin
D3 Supplement, Vitamin A Supplement, Choline
Chloride, Niacin, Vitamin E Supplement, Menadione
Sodium Bisulfite, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Calcium
Pantothenate, Riboflavin, Biotin, Pyridoxine Hy
drochloride,, Thiamine, Dried Aspergillus Niger
Fermentation, Dried Bacillus Subtilus Fermentation
Extract, Dried Trichodema Logibrachiatum Extract.