Lazy Peachick

[Garden Peas]

Just to make sure, i need to give 40 from this needle for albendazole, its a 1ml needle.

Yes. You want 0.4 ml (or 0,4 ml if you write it that way). I would remove the needle if I were doing it, since you are just putting liquid medicine into the bird's food tube, not injecting it. Do you know where it goes? Have you seen the pictures? You MUST NOT put it in the center hole, that is where the bird breathes. It goes to the side.

 

[casportpony]

Kathy said albendazole dose is 0.2 ml per kg.

Yes, with the albendazole that you have it is.

I would round up bird weights to 1.9kg and 1.8kg, but that's just me.

Bird 1 (the sicker one)
Albendazole - 0.4ml once and repeat in ten days
Metronidazole - 100mg (one pill) twice a day for no less than five days

Bird 2
Albendazole - 0.4ml once and repeat in ten days
Metronidazole - 100mg (one pill) twice a day for no less than five days

The Baytril dose I use is 20mg/kg once a day by injection. I do this by injection because when they are this sick I am also tube feeding them and they are more likely to vomit, and sometimes their digestive systems aren't working, so injection is the best way to make sure they get the medication.

@q8peafowl , do you know how to give injections?

-Kathy

Edited to fix major math error!

 

[Garden Peas]

I'm not sure if he is hydrated yet, he could still walking around, but i think he isn't drinking enough water.

So it may be slightly dehydrated maybe not severely dehydrated yet. It will be soon if it keeps going like this. Othman, it's up to you to decide. I'm just worried that without meds, the bird won't start fighting this off. Plus I am slightly worried if you tube liquids then give the baytril, it may come back up.

So if the bird is not severely dehydrated at this point, my suggestion would be baytril & albendazole, then look into whether you need to tube fluids, and do that in a little bit. But hopefully Kathy can chip in here soon

 

[Garden Peas]

Oh hurray, she's here!

 

[casportpony]

If the bird is dehydrated, it must br rehydrated befote giving medications. Kathy always says fluids, more fluids, medication, then foods. Medicating a severely dehydrated bird may cause it to go into shock, i don't know this for sure, but there has to be a reason that the bird has to be hydrated.

I this case I would get the Baytril on board by injection, not orally, then I would tube 60ml or warmed fluids mixed with corn syrup or sugar, wait 60-90 minutes and repeat.

-Kathy

 

[Peafowlssssssss]

I have seen my vet injecting the birds for many times but never try it myself, i could try but i think i need someone to help holding the birds and i'm the only one at home now.

 

[Garden Peas]

Yes, with the albendazole that you have it is.

I would round up bird weights to 1.9kg and 1.8kg, but that's just me.

Bird 1 (the sicker one)
Albendazole - 1.4ml once and repeat in ten days KATHY CAN YOU DOUBLE CHECK THIS? 2 TIMES 0.2 IS 0.4, RIGHT?
Metronidazole - 100mg (one pill) twice a day for no less than five days

Bird 2
Albendazole - 1.5ml once and repeat in ten days SAME QUESTION HERE
Metronidazole - 100mg (one pill) twice a day for no less than five days

The Baytril dose I use is 20mg/kg once a day by injection. I do this by injection because when they are this sick I am also tube feeding them and they are more likely to vomit, and sometimes their digestive systems aren't working, so injection is the best way to make sure they get the medication.

@q8peafowl , do you know how to give injections?

-Kathy

He has the 100 mg/ml strength of albendazole.

 

[casportpony]

Quote: I think the Baytril should be given by injection and the bird should be given the fluids mixed with water. Cause you're right, he is likely to vomit the Baytril up.

Without bloodwork, it's hard to say how dehydrated he is, but I would suspect that he's more that slightly dehydrated. He needs fluids now.

-Kathy

 

[enola]

I was afraid they were going to dose the bird orally, and was afraid the bird would vomit if they tried to tube him after medicating....... This is a very dramatic thread......

 

[Garden Peas]

I was afraid they were going to dose the bird orally, and was afraid the bird would vomit if they tried to tube him after medicating....... This is a very dramatic thread......

Yes, that is a concern. But by the time Othman gets the tubing figured out, the baytril may be well on its way to absorption. And we were just told yesterday by Kathy's expert that Baytril should be given orally because it increases the absorption of the medicine due to the stomach acidity.