I tried the bator method and failed so bad it made me sick. About that time I had one of my girls go broody. Since then another joined to party. Right on schedule the first batch hatched. Found them when I got home. Talking about fun. 6 so far and the only thing I had to do remove the newly laid eggs. No turning,watching humidity and no temp. I'm sure I will try it again but I find it amazing a small bird knows more than I.