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blackbird, how old should a bird be to know that thay will not grow out of them and need to be removed. My birds are 12 weeks?If your banding them really young I wouldn't use the cable ties, incase one gets too tight, they can be a hassle to cut, especially if its tight around the leg. I like to wait until their older so that the leg band fits over the foot snuggly so it won't fall off. But then again I use the sealed ones.
For my show chickens this year I am thinking about using leg bands.