length of confinement for cocci?

[numamahen]

One of my 24 week old Golden Laced Wyandottes was in bad shape on the 21st with cocci. I removed her from the flock and put her in an animal carrier and have been treating the whole flock with corid for cocci. There is two others of the 24 that had some bloody poo - not as bad as hers, but I never figured out which girls they were.

I cleaned out the coop with bleached, pine sol and finally ammonia. We haven't put bedding in only newspaper and butcher wrap so I could be watching the poo. Today there was only one slightly suspicious looking poo. My questions is, since all of the birds have been exposed and treated, when can I let my mostly recovered patient back into the flock?

 

[NotTheMomma]

As soon as she's strong enough to get her food without the others making her leave! And, watch carefully for a few days because sometimes the pecking order can get vicious. Congrats on finding out what was wrong, and getting the flock treated!

 

[geebs]

I am sorry to tell you... once you have cocci.... it is always present... Keeping the coop clean and fecal matter to a minimum helps prevent reinfestations of grand proportion... you will always have to watch babies brought into the coup and adults when a breakout occurs.... It is helpful to switch medications from time to time if you find yourself treating for repeat breakouts... It is common... A sign of blood in the stool is helpful but it's absence does NOT mean cocci isn't affecting a bird.... I treat simultaneously with an antibiotic for secondary infection.... Any time there is rain from now on your chances for a breakout go up... just know this and you can actually use corrid during those times in a lower dose to help "prevent" them.

 

[numamahen]

I read that freezing temperatures are a way to "get rid of" cocci. Since I live in Minnesota might the upcoming winter help to kill off the nasty bug?

Geebs: how do you treat simultaneously with an antibiotic for secondary infection?

 

[Wynette]

Please think twice about using antibioitics as a "prevention." It's really best to not use them unless absolutley necessary, because there is always cause to be concerned about antibiotic resistant bacteria developing.

It sounds like you're on the right track with your treatment and cleaning protocol; I would invest in a gallon of Oxine and use Oxine solution, which kills almost every bug known to chickens! It's expensive, but it's concentrated so you mix with water. It even kills Marek's! I use it each time I clean the coop - I spray the nest boxes, perchest, and even the ground in the run once a year, thoroughly. I also spray feeders and waterers when I clean them. I swear by the stuff, as do many others. Since I've begun using it regularly, I (KNOCK WOOD) haven't had any issues with ANY illnesses! Do a search on here for Oxine, and you'll find lots of info.

 

[numamahen]

thanks wynette - I don't like the sound of using preventative measures. I was going to research that a bit more. Cleaning with Oxine sounds better to me... I will have to read up on it. My girls range in our yard - could I use an orchard sprayer and treat the grass? I would like to shift the ranging area but it will be alot of work to re-fence everything. So a treatment/spray would be nice!

I was planning on starting probiotics mix on Saturday since then there has been a week of treatment. They have been getting yogurt along the way but I have a treatment someone recommended with buttermilk, yogurt, vit e and applesauce with the feed. They love treats - so for some months a couple times a week, they get lettuce, yogurt & some grapes or berries of some type. Hopefully they like the other mix. I hope there gut isn't too destroyed from the Corrid an now suseptable to something else. I also plan on getting back to using ACV 3-5 days a week. Let me know if I am on track - never did this before so I am learning from everyone! Thanks all!!!

 

[Wynette]

Well, it sure sounds like you've learned a lot and have taken it to heart with your flock - lucky girls they are to have YOU as chicken momma! A good probiotic would be fantastic now. I actually give all my flocks a low-dose probioitc in their water 3-5 days per month. make sure the applesauce is unsweetened...yogurt is excellent....be careful on the berries, they're good, but if they are red, they may end up w/red poop and it'll freak you out! If you see red, just know it's probably from the berries.

I think your plan is a good one!

I don't free range my flocks very often because we have lots of fox in the area, and I work full time. I free range them when I'm home only and can watch over them...it's hard to find a big enough chunk of time where I can do this!

Yes, you can use an orchard sprayer with the Oxine solution - that's what I use. It's actually quite economical, IMO!

 

[numamahen]

thanks for the glowing compliment - my DH just sighed and asked if there will ever be any profit in this. I don't think so!! It would just be nice to have a little income from all this work!! I will keep in mind the red berry deal and the apple sauce is unsweetened - thanks for all info & support!

 

[Wynette]

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[Mojo Chick'n]

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