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Well, not really TD ........ There's a thread I started (I think it was "Bobs do like a natural hideout"), and I had a bunch of detail about these feeders. The pic posted is before I modified the feeder so the feed would not gravitate to the top of the opening rings. After I finished it, the feed comes nowhere near the top, and if a crumble is wasted, it's because the bird had it in its mouth and dropped it. They won't rake a crumble of feed out of this one with their beak PERIOD!