LIars, not layers, WHY?

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I have three new girls, 19 1/2 weeks old. This morning I woke up to a very loud egg song. Very egg cited because I have been eagerly awaiting my first egg, I quickly dressed and ran down to the coop to check for an egg. Nothing! All three girls were pacing at the door to be let out to scratch at the grass. Could they have plotted this to get me up to let me out? This waiting for an egg is very frustrating business!!
 
The egg song is basically the alarm call for 'predator spotted nearby'. Domestic chickens use it in the wrong context, hence it being called the egg song. My hens almost never make the 'egg song' and when they do it's because a predator is around, or something which has frightened them.

Best wishes.
 
Thanks Chooks4life,

I looked all over the area for any predators and saw nothing. Both of my cats were on the deck, away from the coop, and were frightened by the racket, waiting to come in. No predators that I could see. Of course there could have been something that took off when they heard the racket...
 
The egg song is basically the alarm call for 'predator spotted nearby'. Domestic chickens use it in the wrong context, hence it being called the egg song. My hens almost never make the 'egg song' and when they do it's because a predator is around, or something which has frightened them.

Best wishes.
Not to worry. My girls (all 20+ of them) made the so called egg song for at least a couple of weeks before I got an egg from one of them. Then it was and egg here and egg there for another week or so. Then JACKPOT!!! I had 19 eggs in one day and it has been going that way pretty much every day since. By the way, the egg song is really a cry for help. Translated into English it is "...OMG, get this thing out of me, give me some pain pills..."

Enjoy the wait. You will have eggs before you know it.
 
The 'egg song' and an alarm call sound almost identical.....having spent numerous hours in the last month or two closely observing my newly laying pullets I can attest that plenty of my hens announce their egg having been or about to be or just thinking about being laid and sometimes the whole flock joins in...... sometimes they sound off for no reason discernible to me.

Chickens will teach you patience.....or you can let them drive you nuts trying to figure them out....they do some weird stuff!
 
Thanks, Its just that I see on here that so many people have hens laying eggs at 17 or 18 weeks that I am becoming impatient.. Big breath! I need to just relax and enjoy my ladies for the cute funny personalities that they are and one day (hopefully soon) they will reward my patience..
 
Thanks, Its just that I see on here that so many people have hens laying eggs at 17 or 18 weeks that I am becoming impatient.. Big breath! I need to just relax and enjoy my ladies for the cute funny personalities that they are and one day (hopefully soon) they will reward my patience..

I had an egg countdown calendar ending at 16 weeks. I was really hoping they would start laying by then. They waited til 20 weeks. now they are 21 weeks and only half are laying. There is no being patient for that first egg. You can pretend to be patient, SAY you're patient but I think it is impossible to actually BE patient. Just keep on checking every hour, asking your chickens to please go lay you an egg, and asking everyone in your family "Do you think they will lay me an egg today?" and eventually, one day all that impatience will pay off and you will find your egg.
 
Not to worry. My girls (all 20+ of them) made the so called egg song for at least a couple of weeks before I got an egg from one of them. Then it was and egg here and egg there for another week or so. Then JACKPOT!!! I had 19 eggs in one day and it has been going that way pretty much every day since. By the way, the egg song is really a cry for help. Translated into English it is "...OMG, get this thing out of me, give me some pain pills..."

Enjoy the wait. You will have eggs before you know it.

I'm not the one whose hens aren't laying, lol, I've had laying hens for going on a decade now and they're still in lay.

The 'egg song' is not a normal part of their laying routine and I've never seen a hen make that sound while laying, though I did have a few who made that sound after laying. Their body requires too much oxygen while laying for them to carry on, generally.

Overall it's just an alarm call when my hens make it. Usually made because of a genuine predator appearance, sometimes just because of being startled.

Best wishes.
 
Quote: Not while actually squeezing the egg out, but just before or after....sometimes after they get out of the nest or as they get out of the nest or as they are on their way to the nest.
Tho I did see a pullet let out quite a loud drawn out squawk when her first double yolker was making it's way out.


OK, OK it's not the 'egg song'.... it's an alarm call....the singing about an egg laid is just a anthropomorphication that humans attribute to chickens :D
 
Not while actually squeezing the egg out, but just before or after....sometimes after they get out of the nest or as they get out of the nest or as they are on their way to the nest.

That's still not 'while laying' though. ;)

Tho I did see a pullet let out quite a loud drawn out squawk when her first double yolker was making it's way out.

Yes, sometimes they do cry out in pain, I generally find that's due to low cal-mag levels, but doubleyolkers can be massive... Poor things. I ended up culling out that trait, too dangerous.

OK, OK it's not the 'egg song'.... it's an alarm call....the singing about an egg laid is just a anthropomorphication that humans attribute to chickens :D

It's not an anthropomorphic projection, I reckon, I am pretty sure we bred it into them over generations by doing such things as hurrying up to check nests as they are exiting them and other such disruptive behaviors like raiding the nests in front of them. I believe it's a modified alarm call, or instinct, which is now repeated even when they're not distressed. It is still their favorite noise to make when distressed though.

I expect some genuinely do enjoy their little ruckus, and some don't even know why they do it (maybe the pain of laying) but I don't enjoy that trait so eradicated it. What's cute with five hens is insane with 100, plus roosters, who also love to sing the 'egg song'. Vocal habits are very heritable.

I actually bred it into mine initially by keeping one hen who would scream that noise at me if she saw me near the nest; I responded by leaving her in peace, which only reinforced her habit. Over the next few generations, it became a serious issue, all her offspring did the same, until I had enough of the raucous cacophony all day every day and culled that trait out --- since then it's not resurfaced once.

In the earlier days, before culling against traits such as possessed by panicky/overly vocal sorts like the aforementioned hen and her offspring, most times a hen of mine made that noise around the nest it was due to being disrupted or watching her clutch be desecrated; I ended up collecting eggs at night for a bit, lol, because of the amount of hens I had laying in only a few nests meant there was always someone coming to deposit her egg during the day, and when they saw me stealing eggs they made that alarm call, and some would then go lay elsewhere.

Clearly a bit of distress at seeing their future babies stolen, lol. ;)

If chooks made this 'egg song' in the wild, obviously, they'd draw predators to the nest and fail to pass on their genes. Some birds do sing egg songs, but they do it either far from the nest, or in species where they nest in very high and inaccessible places, not ground-nesting birds like chooks.

Best wishes.
 

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