lice!!!

[dawg53]

Look it up if you want to be more educated! They absorb it through their skin. It takes forever to get it out of them because their cells then contain it and until you stop using it and the old cells die and are replaced with new healthy ones.

You are putting out misinformation on products. I'm going to educate you to help you out. Here's a link to a withdrawal time chart. Scroll down and read that sevin dust has a 7 day withdrawal period.
http://www.cfo.on.ca/_pdfs/PoultryWithdrawalTimeChart-Mar30-07.pdf

 

[appps]

If your interested in the frontline in the drops you can buy it on ebay under pets products. I have 4 dogs of different weights so I buy it the way the shelters and kennels do then i can give them the appropriate dose with out over medicating them. Much cheaper.  I haven't used it on the chickens what is the withdrawl period on eggs with frontline? I hate I have to use anything on them but ya have to do what ya have to do.... thanks for the info..../img/smilies/smile.png

Used drops the vet gave me, in own container not a frontline one but imagine similar thing and she told me two weeks with holding on the eggs.
Hope this helps.

 

[A HappyHenLover]

Fine. But just so you know I believe everything I've said, and I know most of it to be true with my own hens as an example.

 

[NewbeeDoo]

You are putting out misinformation on products. I'm going to educate you to help you out. Here's a link to a withdrawal time chart. Scroll down and read that sevin dust has a 7 day withdrawal period.
http://www.cfo.on.ca/_pdfs/PoultryWithdrawalTimeChart-Mar30-07.pdf

Thanks for the chart! Any idea of the withdraw period for Permethryn?

 

[liljunie]

I was wondering the same thing.

 

[NewbeeDoo]

I was wondering the same thing.

I found Ectotrin (SP?) on the chart and it has same ingredients in different dosages. I ordered Permethrin 10% and Ectotrin has 5.something % and has a withdraw period of 7 days...I think I'm going to try diluting the Permethrin down to see if that works. I actually dunked them all in soap/salt water, then vinegar water, then just water and poof! All the lice are gone! I'm expecting the one 'infestor' , who had the most eggs, will share the love again, so I'm going to actually repeat the wash in a few days before I try the Permethrin...

 

[LittleBits]

Here's a link to a withdrawal time chart. Scroll down and read that sevin dust has a 7 day withdrawal period.
http://www.cfo.on.ca/_pdfs/PoultryWithdrawalTimeChart-Mar30-07.pdf

There are SO MANY differences in opinions and SO MANY different options, it's VERY confusing.

That being said, I'm trying to sort out what is best for me and mine. I am leaning toward using Sevin in a shaker bag (is this a little traumatic - even though thorough - for the hens? It seems to be the next cheapest and effective method (as reported on here that is!) Need to find a way so I can do it w/o help.

A few questions for you, if I may:
1. How much salt and how much vinegar are you using?
2. What kind of soap with the salt water and how much?
3. When you get your chickens completely wet - do you need to use a hair dryer on them or just let them air out on their own?
4. If you're using this method on the hens, how do you treat your coop and run?

TO THOSE WHO USE SEVIN - or any other product that has a withdrawal time, for that matter! What do you do w/ your eggs during the 7d w/drawal time? I hate to think of throwing them all away - we don't get very many as it is, even from 11 hens - they don't all lay every day.

ALSO: What does anyone on this thread think about Neem Oil and/or Nu-Stock? Has anyone here tried it lately?

ALSO: Wood Ash use? http://naturalchickenkeeping.blogspot.com/2012/12/natural-way-to-rid-chickens-of-lice.html

Wish there was only one way to do it all! Wouldn't that make it all lovely!!

 

[NewbeeDoo]

Sorry, my phone isn't letting me quote you... disclaimer: I am VERY new to chickens...thus the name I'll try to answer your question to my limited knowledge though... if I'm wrong someone with more wisdom please correct me!

I thought the noise of the Sevin dusting bag sounded tramatising, but what do I know...I went with the dunking method because I had the ingredients on hand.

Q 1&2: I used 3 buckets about 3-4 gallons of warm water in each. 1st had about 3T. Dishwashing soap (I hear normal Dawn is safe but I had Sunlight so thats what I used), & 1/2c. Salt...2nd. Buckets had about 1/2c. White vinegar 3rd bucket just had water. Dunking went really quick once I got under both wings...the lice seemed to die immediately!

Q3: It's already in the 90's here so I didn't blow dry them just did it early enough that they'd completely dry by dark (I'd guess about 3 hours)

Q4: I've read that lice don't last when they're not on a host so cleaning the coop isn't as important as it is if you have a mite infestation...I have sand in my run, so I sprayed it with Windex multi surface with vinegar(this worked to kill maggots so I figured it'd be ok), then I raked the sand good and dusted it with DE. (I had previously tryed dusting with DE to get rid of lice and it didn't work super well...killed some thougg) The coop has a PDZ floor and I did the same as the sand in the run. I pulled out the roost, scraped all the poop off, sprayed it too and dusted it with the DE. The nesting boxes I threw away all the bedding and did the spray and DE.

Neem oil SNINKS horribly...I'm sure it would work...hope the chickens wouldn't mind

Hard wood ash should work to put in a tray inside the coop for them to bathe in, the harder the wood, the larger the lye content and when the lice or mites have excrement, the lye reacts with the moisture and fat to kill.

I personally dunked my chickens the 2nd time yesterday in a Permethrin soln hoping it'd keep the mosquitos away...I'll have to see though...none of mine are laying now so I don't have to toss any eggs.

Hope this is helpful a little! If nothing else I feel your angst!! VERY frustrating dealing with illness!!

 

[LittleBits]

Newbeedo: Thank you for your reply. I think I am going to try this first, too, as it seems like it's something that I MIGHT be able to do myself plus it's cheap...If it doesn't work for my chickens, I'll go w/ something else. Sounds like I should know pretty quick after the dunking!

 

[NewbeeDoo]

Newbeedo: Thank you for your reply. I think I am going to try this first, too, as it seems like it's something that I MIGHT be able to do myself plus it's cheap...If it doesn't work for my chickens, I'll go w/ something else. Sounds like I should know pretty quick after the dunking!

I should mention, I read and found to be true, that if you have a LOT of lice (like I did on my rooster), they'll run away from the water up to the bird's head, so someone mentioned putting a ring of soap around the birds neck before you dunk to prevent this. Oh, and wear some good rubber gloves Happy dunking!