Lice

[aggiemae]

Will this work for fleas too? I found a few on my dog this afternoon, and if Permethrin work on those buggers too, that would be great!

Yes it kills fleas too and works on dogs but though permethrin is plant based it is toxic and potentually deadly to cats so best not to use if you have cats in your home.

 

[RedDrgn]

Is there a Sevin dust made for use on chickens? All I can find is for use on veggies fruits lawns patios, etc, but can not find any that says its safe for use on chickens, or animals of any kind.

No. The Sevin dust everyone talks about here is the fruit/veggie variety. It's what I used for ours and it worked great. Didn't bother the chickens a bit.

To my knowledge, it works just as well on mites and fleas.

 

[SouthDakotan]

No. The Sevin dust everyone talks about here is the fruit/veggie variety. It's what I used for ours and it worked great. Didn't bother the chickens a bit.

To my knowledge, it works just as well on mites and fleas.

Another thing that works great is ASH...straight up wood ash. You can put it in a tub or simply make a pile in their coop to allow them to dust in. Ash mixes with the moister of the mites and kills em dead and all you get is ash covered chickens for a bit. Some say it "smothers" the mites, but I know that ash makes an acid when it mixes with water, so I think its more about the ash acid that does the trick. I know my hens love their ash bathing station. Been trying to figure how I might give the same treatment to my aviary birds inside!

 

[CariLynn]

When our chickens began to show signs of lice and nits, I did a lot of research on line and found that, while not FDA approved, you can use frontline for chickens. But, it is really important to get the one for puppies and kittens, as it isn't as strong as the normal adult one. You can put one drop on the back of the neck of a smaller hen, such as a Golden Comet and two drops, one on the base of the tail and the base of the neck on a larger adult hen. It will kill the lice and anything else, they will not come back for several months.

 

[lovinchickypoos]

Will this work for fleas too? I found a few on my dog this afternoon, and if Permethrin work on those buggers too, that would be great!

I have seen several people talk about using Frontline on chickens. I would love to use this as it works wonders for cats and dogs (it's important to note the cat version is different from the dogs) I'm currently using permethrin on my chickens and coop but would prefer to use Frontline as I know that it is extremely safe and when I worked at a veterinary office that is always what was recommended for dogs. The only downfall is that it is very expensive! I read one post where they bought the Frontline spray and just used a tiny dropper, which would be more cost effective.

 

[RedDrgn]

I have seen several people talk about using Frontline on chickens. I would love to use this as it works wonders for cats and dogs (it's important to note the cat version is different from the dogs) I'm currently using permethrin on my chickens and coop but would prefer to use Frontline as I know that it is extremely safe and when I worked at a veterinary office that is always what was recommended for dogs. The only downfall is that it is very expensive! I read one post where they bought the Frontline spray and just used a tiny dropper, which would be more cost effective.

Word of caution on that: It's my understanding that Frontline is a systemic treatment that penetrate's the skin of an animal and remains in its body for an extended period of time (killing the pests while it's there). What does that mean for a bird producing eggs/meat for food? Can it get into eggs/meat and if so, what is the withdrawal period for eggs/meat? I really don't know nor have been able to find an answer for this, and wouldn't want to eat fipronil, personally.

 

[lovinchickypoos]

Word of caution on that: It's my understanding that Frontline is a systemic treatment that penetrate's the skin of an animal and remains in its body for an extended period of time (killing the pests while it's there). What does that mean for a bird producing eggs/meat for food? Can it get into eggs/meat and if so, what is the withdrawal period for eggs/meat? I really don't know nor have been able to find an answer for this, and wouldn't want to eat fipronil, personally.

Very good point!! That's certainly the problem with using things off label. In cats and dogs it only stays in the sebaceous glands in the skin and does not affect them sytematically. Studies were done (hard topic) on pregnant animals with doses far exceeding regular dosing and no harm came to them or their offspring, but, you're right, I'm not sure about eating the meat.

 

[CGinJCMO]

My understanding is that the Frontline (and other's like it) are topical only and if you give your dog a bath, you've washed off the medicine. I read that recently but can't remember where now to post the link.

I treat my outdoor cat each month because the medicine is suppose to be effective for 30 days and if I don't, I do see the ticks get on him and know that I forgot at the first of the month to treat him.


CG

 

[RedDrgn]

My understanding is that the Frontline (and other's like it) are topical only and if you give your dog a bath, you've washed off the medicine. I read that recently but can't remember where now to post the link.

No, I know that's not the case. As lovingchickypoos said, it does enter and remain in the sebaceous glands (essentially the animal's skin oil glands) for a period of time. As the oils from these glands come to the surface of the skin and get distributed by the animal through it's coat, the pesticide goes with it and kills the nasty pests when they come in contact. It works great. I've used it on dogs and cats for years, but not on chickens. I know it works on chickens and does not appear to harm them, but a chicken's body isn't a dog or cat, or even a mammal. It seems unlikely that it'd get into the reproductive tract and then into eggs, but who knows? However, if it works like it does on dogs/cats, then I don't know how it would not affect the skin/meat and therefore the carcass of a meat bird. So then, you have to wonder what the withdrawal period would be so that you're not eating Frontline when you eat a bird treated with it, or if it even really gets out of the bird's system (some treatments, even those for chickens, are specific in stating that they may not be used on meat and/or egg birds because of residues).

At least with the Poultry Dust (listed for animal and food vegetable use) and Sevin (listed for food vegetable use), it's topical and has been studied with regards to use on food products. Though to get right down to it, I really loathe using any chemicals/pesticides and won't unless I really have to (e.g. infestation).

 

[lovinchickypoos]

.... if you give your dog a bath, you've washed off the medicine.



CG

Nope!! Frontline is proven to stay in the skin even if they are bathed. You just have to give it 24hrs to settle in!