Look at this photo from early 1900's - How can I breed similar birds???

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by write2caroline, Jul 26, 2012.

  1. write2caroline

    write2caroline Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jun 21, 2009

    To me they look like Orpingtons or Sussex with big round bodies and small combs but have a barred pattern.

    Any ideas?

    My Grandmother was 3 in the photo and I think she lived in Washington State

  2. Marty1876

    Marty1876 Hi Everyone!

    Looks like a pre-barred rock variety. Body and fullness like a RIR. Not sure on this one.
  3. Pele

    Pele Chillin' With My Peeps

    Feb 25, 2011
    This would be an interesting breeding project. Perhaps you could start with some nice large Black Orpingtons, and cross them with some Dominique roosters, then focus only the barred offspring (particularily on the males if you breed back).

    That would give you the large body of the Orps, soften the barring (I've read before that European barred orps have softer bars), and I believe you'd end up with the Dominique comb as dominant.

    You'd have to do some gene scrubbing for a few generations, but it's an idea worth kicking around on paper.
  4. Lotsapaints

    Lotsapaints Chillin' With My Peeps

    Mar 17, 2010
    Paso Robles, CA
    They look like barred rocks to me from the early 1900's
  5. Fred's Hens

    Fred's Hens Chicken Obsessed Premium Member


    On your other thread, I think a few knowledgeable folks suggested you find heritage Barred Rocks. That would still be my suggestion. I have a pen of heritage BRs that are from the ringlet line of the early 1900's. Yes, direct descendants of the birds pictured above. Their DNA. They've never been outbred or crossed. They've been preserved and kept as an heirloom breed for 100 years by guardian keepers/breeders. These birds are HUGE. I have lots of hatchery Barred Rocks, and while I've enjoyed them, the heritage lines are much slower growing, and much large bodied. They ARE the birds in your photo.

    It would take forever and a day to try to create such birds, if even possible. The work has already been done by those who preserved the birds, just like the birds in your grandmother's photo. My grandmother also had BRs and it was her influence on me as a boy some _____ er, let's just say well over a half century ago, LOL, that has always drawn me to chickens and husbandry. Good Shepherd Poultry Ranch and Mr Frank Reese. An important name. There's a thread here on BYC about these birds and the BYC members who have them. You might find the eye candy wonderfully inspiring.

  6. nicalandia

    nicalandia Overrun With Chickens

    Jul 16, 2009
  7. write2caroline

    write2caroline Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jun 21, 2009

    I am very interested in heritage birds. Mostly because they are gloriously beautiful. I will have to find a way to get some stock or trade for some.

  8. speckledhen

    speckledhen Intentional Solitude Premium Member

    Another name to remember is Marvin Stukel. My Rocks are out of his 50 year pure line of Barred Rocks. They are quite impressive and the personalities are just as wonderful as you'd expect from a Rock, on top of being stunning.



    Dru here is 21 weeks old and the youngest one I have. She won't lay for another probably two months. I no longer have the cockerel in the pic above, unfortunately.

    Last edited: Jul 29, 2012
  9. gootziecat

    gootziecat Chillin' With My Peeps

    Nov 27, 2007
    Hampshire Co, WV
    The LF heritage Rocks are stunning birds. Do they have heritage Rocks in bantams?

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