Looking for a male saint bernard

[dainerra]

how much is a c-section in your area? Here, it's almost $2000. No way i could save that much money in the short time a dog is pregnant. then there are the other routine vet visits she is going to need between now and the arrival of the pups. X-ray to see how many pups (or ultrasound) follow-up visit after she whelps. Vet exams for the pups. Worming pups. The list goes on and on

Here are average costs for my area - (wanted to add, these are discounted prices due to a long standing relationship based on frequent business)
Pre breeding vet check up and brucellosis test: $100
Progesterone tests to time ovulation: 4 x $50 = $200
Stud fee: $1000
Travel to stud 300+ miles away (gas, 2 nights hotel, etc…): $300
Ultrasound to confirm pregnancy: $90
Additional food for dam for last few weeks of pregnancy and through weaning: $200
Wormer for puppies: $55
Albon for puppies: $70
Food for pups from weaning through sending home: $300
Vaccinations for pups: $75
Fecal test for pups: $50
Microchips for pups: 8 x $15 = $120
AKC registrations: $180

As for the stud being used before, that doesn't mean anything. Like STDs in humans, he could have picked something up from the last female. Or a stray female in heat if he snuck out of the house. You really need to have the STD tests done at an absolute minimum. It's too late to do hips/elbows and any genetic tests.

 

[arabianequine]

The TVT and Brucellosis testing do I still need to on my *****? We have had her since she was 8 weeks old and never gotten out of our yard or been mated before. I am thinking I should start with the sire on that for now? or could my ***** have or be carrying something from her dam?

Money is not a big issue either. I just don't want to do (time is money or pay for unnecessary things.

When should the ultrasound be done to check if she is pregnant or not? Can't a pregnancy test be done for that?

 

[dainerra]

most vets confirm pregnancy through x-rays or ultrasound. Also, you need to have a good estimate of how many pups there are. That way you will know how many to expect and better able to keep an eye on her when she is in labor. IE she has had 4 pups and seems to have stopped contractions. Is it a small litter or is there a need to give her meds to get her contractions restarted? I believe 42 days is about average, that is when their bones are solid enough to show up on xrays. Others prefer to do ultrasounds so that you aren't exposing the pups to radiation. Ultrasounds can be done after 20 days or so. Not all vets do ultrasounds so you will need to see which yours prefers

Did you buy the stud? If you test him and he is positive, you would still need to test your female to see if she contracted the disease. I know that the TVT can be passed through oral contact but I don't know if it is common in your area. I've been told that it is more common in southern states. I would ask your vet if it might be an issue.

 

[Redyre Rotties]

if you did not do ovulation timing to know when ovulation is, it is hard to know when to do an US or bloodtest to determine if she is in whelp.

I would do it 30 days after the last tie, and I would do ultra sound,not the blood test.

I never breed any dog without a current Brucellosis test.

Then the exray is traditionally done very near whelping to be able to count as close as possible the number of puppies due.

Good luck.

 

[arabianequine]

I do know she went through all the red blood stage of the heat cycle and they were together that whole time. The first time he mated with her was like the 11th day of her heat cycle. They were only together in supervision and she let us know when he did mate with her everytime...she did not like it one bit. I marked that down on the calendar.

It was like he knew right when the timing was right. I had read that somewhere too.

I have it marked down on my calendar to do an ultra sound 30 days after the last tie.

I did read that about xray do have one done during last due date week.

Thank you for you help! Its much appreciated...I am always learning

if you did not do ovulation timing to know when ovulation is, it is hard to know when to do an US or bloodtest to determine if she is in whelp.

I would do it 30 days after the last tie, and I would do ultra sound,not the blood test.

I never breed any dog without a current Brucellosis test.

Then the exray is traditionally done very near whelping to be able to count as close as possible the number of puppies due.

Good luck.

 

[dainerra]

I do know she went through all the red blood stage of the heat cycle and they were together that whole time. The first time he mated with her was like the 11th day of her heat cycle. They were only together in supervision and she let us know when he did mate with her everytime...she did not like it one bit. I marked that down on the calendar.

It was like he knew right when the timing was right. I had read that somewhere too.

I have it marked down on my calendar to do an ultra sound 30 days after the last tie.

I did read that about xray do have one done during last due date week.

Thank you for you help! Its much appreciated...I am always learning

not entirely true. An over-eager stud can try to force a female when she isn't ready. Other times, the female just doesn't like the stud and won't stand for mating no matter what. That is where the progesterone (spelling?) comes in handy.

The main thing you are going to have to worry about is whether eggs were fertilized on multiple days. You could have pups that are 5 days farther along than others, so depending on when she goes into labor you could lose some to prematurity or if she goes long, some might be over-sized meaning she'll need a c-section to deliver.

Do you have an experienced breeder who can come help you when she does whelp? All the books in the world can't beat hands-on experience, especially when it comes from distinguishing normal from an emergency. In a whelping female, it's literally a matter of life and death.

 

[arabianequine]

I had a call into my vet and they say that TVT is from the south usually and very rare here. They said if the dog had an existing tumor they could send test that.

This stud came from and born on the West coast. My vet has never done or even have that test in their system. Been in business for 50+ years. Originally owner passed away last Dec. he was great and new his stuff. I miss him terribly for my animal advice.

I got a price on the Brucellosis and they can do that. I will start with my stud. Of course if he tests positive....I will get my female tested too.

No I did not buy him.

most vets confirm pregnancy through x-rays or ultrasound. Also, you need to have a good estimate of how many pups there are. That way you will know how many to expect and better able to keep an eye on her when she is in labor. IE she has had 4 pups and seems to have stopped contractions. Is it a small litter or is there a need to give her meds to get her contractions restarted? I believe 42 days is about average, that is when their bones are solid enough to show up on xrays. Others prefer to do ultrasounds so that you aren't exposing the pups to radiation. Ultrasounds can be done after 20 days or so. Not all vets do ultrasounds so you will need to see which yours prefers

Did you buy the stud? If you test him and he is positive, you would still need to test your female to see if she contracted the disease. I know that the TVT can be passed through oral contact but I don't know if it is common in your area. I've been told that it is more common in southern states. I would ask your vet if it might be an issue.

 

[FlaRocky]

What do you mean you reserve 8 pups?

Edited: Oh you mean 8 are already spoken for? 

Hi, That means 8 already have a contract with a deposit on them.

That means in my contract buyer pays 25% to reserve what they want, 25% due @ birth and insurance put on pup til weaned, final 50% due @ 8 weeks. Take pup home after puppy classes with me and follow up, depending on pup and what it will be used for it might not go home with new owner till 6 months or more. I folllow all my pups ALL of its life. In whatever work they may do. Family, police , search and rescue, whatever. And ALL of my pups ALWAYS have a forever HOME to come home to if the need arises. And yes it has, and that pup is always welcomed back home no matter how old it is to live out his or her life.

This is the ONLY way I could justify becoming a breeder(with myself), for the quality and betterment of the breed.

Maye

 

[arabianequine]

Sounds good to me...I got 20 acres. I can and am willing to do all that too.

Hi, That means 8 already have a contract with a deposit on them.
That means in my contract buyer pays 25% to reserve what they want, 25% due @ birth and insurance put on pup til weaned, final 50% due @ 8 weeks. Take pup home after puppy classes with me and follow up, depending on pup and what it will be used for it might not go home with new owner till 6 months or more. I folllow all my pups ALL of its life. In whatever work they may do. Family, police , search and rescue, whatever. And ALL of my pups ALWAYS have a forever HOME to come home to if the need arises. And yes it has, and that pup is always welcomed back home no matter how old it is to live out his or her life.
This is the ONLY way I could justify becoming a breeder(with myself), for the quality and betterment of the breed.
Maye

 

[watchdogps]

I was wondering about nutrition too for my girl. I hear to put her on puppy food but not sure when too do that or if I should?

No testing for disease has been done yet. This sire has had 3 litters already though with no problems known.

I have a spot to keep them separate and they are separated now and will be at whelping time too. Can they be back together during pregnancy? When should they be separated before birthing? A couple weeks before due date?

You should have known these answers BEFORE you bred. Go get this book, NOW: http://www.amazon.com/Successful-Dog-Breeding-Midwifery-reference/dp/0876057407

The sire is only 2 yrs old, and he has had three litters already? His pups aren't old enough to know if they have a lot of genetic issues that may happen. They cant be more than a year old.