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So July was coming to a close and I had lost two chickens and was worried I hadn't done anything. I remember I didn't know a hen killed one of the pullets and thought it might be disease. Mind you I had also just gotten back from Mainland China a month earlier where they had a serious poultry outbreak while I was there. So I decided to do something!

I took a long hard look at the rats that were tunneling in here and there. They were eating food but they were also drinking water. We were going thru a lot of water in a day and the chicken count had not increased plus it was not nearly warm enough to explain the 50% greater rate of water loss. So thinking...well rats carry disease and we don't want rats around the chickens they might steal eggs or attack the chickens out right. So I called the "Ratter"

A great young man, who raises Rat Terrier's true to their original purpose answer the rat call.
He came out with pic and shovel and 7 Rat Terriers plus an out of state helper (super sweet woman) who was here to breed her dog to one of his.
The dogs trained in their original mission, to smell out, hunt and kill (very quickly) rats. The humans dig and flood with water, where there is evidence of rats.
I was dressed in close fitting riding boots, snug pants all tucked in and high collared long sleeved shirt. I was taking no chances as we worked the next two hours
Well in two hours we unearthed and rushed out 36 rats. The dogs caught and killed 28 rats. 8 of the biggest ones got away. As to what 28 rats looks like , well it looks like a nearly full five gallon bucket.

Mind you we had removed the chickens earlier. Putting the pullets in a dog crate and letting the hens and rooster free range. We inspected the chicken coop carefully when it was over. Adding under ground wire and removing concrete walls the Ratter told us made it difficult for him to work his dogs but did not keep out a single burrowing rat.

During the blood sport the Speckled Sussex (I have talked about before) came over three times! She was indignant about us being in her house! Mind you she often lays eggs in the bushes vs her box in the coop. She knows who she is and what she is entitled to and we had not asked permission and she was having none of it. Mind you the Rat Terrier dogs all backed away from her when she insisted on coming in. Each and every time I had to take her farther and father away.

We felt pretty good about ourselves. We cleaned it all up re-leveled the ground and let all the chickens come back in

We felt like good honest chicken folk. Like we were helping ourselves our neighbors the chickens and not hurting the foxes or skunks or raccoons or hawks that hunt since we did not use poison.
 
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Ok, the stoat post and info, great! You had more than what i found online. And the ratters, all i can say is wow. Did you know there was that large of a problem or were you simply amazed at the number of rats unearthed?

Has your speckled sussex started laying in her box now that the intruders have left or is she still a secret layer? Last week we couldn't find our cochin, Sophia, feared the worst. Next day she was found on a clutch under a bush. Soon as the eggs were removed her overnight broody phase ended...too bad I just got half a dozen hatching eggs, she could have been back up for Blanch since this is our first rodeo with eggs and have no practicle experience yet.
 
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Dear Ezs Choukies

I was amazed by how big the rat population was. I had no idea but I also don't think I am alone I have three neighbors who's property abuts mine that raise small flocks of chickens, along with fruits trees and composts etc...

What I was most surprised by was the unintended consequences of first bringing chickens on to the property, planting fruit trees and maintaining a compost,... I am sure also help. Anyway I now believe those things that I do to exist with nature and live a pleasant life here in Sonoma county change the ecosystem considerably. Some times in ways I like, sometimes not but almost always the changes were out of my purview. Frankly I had not anticipated or planned for them.

Case in point I put a fountain off my bedroom patio. Its lovely it makes a lovely sound and it helps frame out the patio into an oasis and retreat vs a more prison like feel. I did it for me :) however it changed the bird population and may have changed what I assumed was migration. Species of birds I saw for short periods now stay far beyond their original season. Also larger animals come drink from the fountain. Wild Turkey but also something predatory. When it first went up I had the feeling of being on the Serengeti. One morning I woke up to blood, and urine. Not a small amount ether but no fur or feathers to tell me what it was that was attacked the night before.

Anyway killing that many rats even if my hobby farming (for lack of a better term) brought the rats onto the property or at least helped build their numbers, had a subsequently huge impact on the local predictors and ultimately on my flock and my happiness I never saw coming.
 
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Hi Bobbi Michelle,

I know what you mean about trying to coexist with nature bringing changes you had never anticipated. I do hope the way we life really does make a difference in our small corners of the world. Simple things though or acts of kindness really shock me with their outcomes. I had a new litter off kittens surprise me under the house. There was no way to catch them so I started putting food down in hopes that I could get them to come for that then I could trap them when they looked big enough. One got killed & we are down to one or two I babies I think; the food brought in some killer. I feel really bad for any part I may have played in its demise. Time to get out the rodent strobes again, which worked amazing on rats a year plus ago. They were gone in 24hrs and took any babies with them. The lights are supposed to work on skunks, opossum, raccoons too and other hunters, in addition to squirrels, so I'll give them a whirl.

I was so lucky to get five little silkie/sizzle/frizzle babies this week & have a broody cochin setting on a clutch (my first), but I worry about what ever got that kitten coming for the birds. This is a big reason I'm starting with the banty sized chickens, they can be fenced better but still have range room. I'm going to keep my eyes open for a couple d'Uccles and call it a day lol.

You would think living where I do the predators would not be thriving here, but as I often look at the deer & racoon I realize I am right at the edge of the zone so it is in actuality a prime space for then to try to forage.
 
Sorry to hear about your kittens. I am certain that it seemed exciting when you found them, it would have been that way for me in any case. I would not have thought ahead to the fact that feeding them might bringing in predators. I am thrilled about the new clutch. Good lucky and post updates as your able. :)
 
Hey Bobbi Michelle!

I hope you and your critters are doing great. I was wondering if you will be going to the show in Stockton Saturday. Some of the BYC gang are planning to meet up for lunch time at a table near the snack area. There are two threads related including the presale forum and the Stockton thread.

If so I'd be great to meet my far away neighbor!
 

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