Quote:The difference is the torture to the coons...that the chickens aren't subjected to. Killing in it of itself is not inhumane.......trapping a wild animal and confining it in a cage only to be released and hunted down by dogs before being shot is sheer torture, plain and simple. It is cruel and unnecessary. You do not need live animals to train...all you need is scent. **Just because they take off and run doesn't mean they've recovered from their trauma.......its means they ran scared.... They survive b/c their instincts tell them when "flight or fight" is in order.......when they've been trapped and terrified they generally know flight is in order........or when a bunch of dogs are after them. Stina, go back through and read the rules of the forum. If you are having a hard time finding the rules of this forum I've posted the link below. https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=5808 If you are still having a hard time finding the specific rules you broke, I've cut and paste some right below this. Please keep your flames to yourself. Thus endeth the sermon. *If information is graphic, please note it in the subject line of your post so members can make a decision whether they want to open the thread or not. If you choose to open a thread with said warnings, it is not BYC's responsibility when you are offended. *Dealing with predators and pests is not always pleasant. Although sometimes hard to do, please be as sensitive as possible when explaining procedures and results. Some younger members and/or squeamish adults will appreciate it. *Although some ways are not considered ideal to some, it serves the purpose of removing the offending predator. If you have an idea or a helpful comment, please do reply. If it is a sarcastic comment about the disposal or capture of a predator, please keep your thoughts to yourself. We are not here to judge one another on methods or ways and means.