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Hey Ms. Pam

The link below will bring you to a page of Victor Coil Spring traps. I like the #4 size but, the #3 will work. The #4 has a wider opening between jaws and has stronger springs. They can get expensive but can pay for themselves quickly when dealing with the deaths of expensive animals and birds.

http://www.rpoutdoors.com/viccoilsprin.html

Snares are the least expensive but most effective. If you know the paths the coyote is using to approach your chickens, it becomes increasingly easier to catch them. You can install "stops" on a snare to prevent them from closing so tightly as to kill the snared animal. Do this only if you are afraid of catching a non-target animal like a neighbor's dog. Like I said before, we often deliberately set for marauding dogs and we set them to kill. They can be the most vicious and indiscriminate killers of all. They'll kill every chicken on your property and come back looking for more to kill.

I know you are busy Ms. Pam, but take the time to watch some coyote snaring and coyote trapping videos and you will quickly become proficient at it. A coyote that is killing animals in close proximity to humans becomes much easier to catch. You know what he's after and how he must approach his prey. Use this knowledge to catch and kill this killer You can even create obstacles to force him into the path you've chosen to place your snare/trap. For instance, you might want to anchor your trap/snare to a strong tree or post. Use brush, wood or anything to funnel him into that area if you can.

A great place to catch them is if you find a place where they're crawling under a fence!

I've gotten very long-winded here but it's not a subject explained in a few words. It's not rocket science either! If it was very difficult, I would have never been able to do it.
 
Hey lakeones

My oldest son lives down the east bank of Plaquemines Parish. It was plenty wild before, but since hurricanes Katrina and Isaac totally destroyed the place, very few people stayed behind to rebuild. Well, it has become the wildest place I have ever seen. Raptors are horrendous with hawks worse and owls right behind them. But possums are the main killer and of course coons right behind them. Coyotes are a big problem and allow me to help if I can. We don't have foxes. I guess they don't like it wet?

When these predators started killing my son's and my mutt chickens and ducks, I began to contact all of the old trappers down here in St. Bernard and in Plaquemine. The most enjoyable discussions I ever had was with these great old trappers! Some of them had become wealthy back in the days of the mighty muskrat.

OK, back to your fox. After writing down all of the tips the old guys gave me, I went on youtube for days and weeks. There is a wealth of information on trapping both foxes and coyotes. Just about everything the trappers had told me about, and with videos, was right there on YouTube. The methods given will work equally well on both foxes and coyotes. They are curious and they are voracious eaters. This makes them easiER to catch. Not easy but easiER. A fox or coyote is not terribly hard to catch in the wild, but one that is already frequenting human areas is even easier. You don't have to concern yourself as much with covering your scent.

Word of my success led to the folks down Plaquemine and St. Bernard calling me to for help with their predator problems. I've never charged a dime to help them. Being a hunter all of my life and not being able to run behind dogs, paddle pirogues or climb into tree-stands any more, made this an easy jump for an old fat hunter.

Snares work extremely well. Very inexpensive, easy to set and very effective. Just make sure you don't catch unwanted dogs. Some dogs were our targets at times. Here is the trap I would recommend for foxes. It is the Victor 1.75 4 Coiled Coilspring
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. The link below is gonna display all of the sizes. You want the 1.75 I have in bold.

http://www.rpoutdoors.com/viccoilsprin.html

If you have possums or coons the trap I have linked to below is absolutely fantastic! It won't catch dogs or cats. The animal must have hand-like front paws with dexterity to reach inside the trap and pull up the trigger. I'm tellin ya this thing is THE solution for possums and coons. I use fish guts or sardines/tuna with strawberry preserves. Pack it down into the trap and drop a couple of globs around the traps. Done!!!

http://www.rpoutdoors.com/dudpcotr.html

Sorry to have gotten so long winded. With all of the help y'all have given me, I figured this might be helpful?

Thanks for the info! I will look for some of the videos to watch and learn from. Sounds like you have become very proficient at this.
 
Hey lakones

You're very welcome! If you ever need specific advice, ask away. I promise I will try to be more brief!!

It became necessary for us to be proficient. As people abandoned their destroyed homes, their abandoned dogs that survived became feral and wild. They are also multiplying like crazy.

The coyote is a relative newcomer to this area. They have no resistance to heartworms like our domestic dogs. The LA wildlife biologists tell us that they produce one litter before they die of heartworms! And yet, they have become the scourge they are. This is a testament to the abundance of prey animals we are blessed with here in Louisiana.

Still, possums are the biggest problem we have down here. Raptors not far behind.

Just don't allow your stock to become the next meal on their menu!
 
bigoledude,

That is not something I would have ever imagined would be a problem after such a storm. Definitely not a story you will find on cnn or foxnews! It makes sense though because the basic instinct of nature is to survive no matter what the costs/risk. 10 years after Katrina and still battling the effects of it. Wow.
 
Hey Ms. Pam

The link below will bring you to a page of Victor Coil Spring traps.  I like the #4 size but, the #3 will work.  The #4 has a wider opening between jaws and has stronger springs.  They can get expensive but can pay for themselves quickly when dealing with the deaths of expensive animals and birds.

http://www.rpoutdoors.com/viccoilsprin.html

Snares are the least expensive but most effective.  If you know the paths the coyote is using to approach your chickens, it becomes increasingly easier to catch them.  You can install "stops" on a snare to prevent them from closing so tightly as to kill the snared animal.  Do this only if you are afraid of catching a non-target animal like a neighbor's dog.  Like I said before, we often deliberately set for marauding dogs and we set them to kill.  They can be the most vicious and indiscriminate killers of all.  They'll kill every chicken on your property and come back looking for more to kill.

 
I know you are busy Ms. Pam, but take the time to watch some coyote snaring and coyote trapping videos and you will quickly become proficient at it.  A coyote that is killing animals in close proximity to humans becomes much easier to catch.  You know what he's after and how he must approach his prey.  Use this knowledge to catch and kill this killer  You can even create obstacles to force him into the path you've chosen to place your snare/trap.  For instance, you might want to anchor your trap/snare to a strong tree or post.  Use brush, wood or anything to funnel him into that area if you can. 

A great place to catch them is if you find a place where they're crawling under a fence!  

I've gotten very long-winded here but it's not a subject explained in a few words.  It's not rocket science either!  If it was very difficult, I would have never been able to do it. 

Thank you so much! I will watch them. I know his exact approach . Just happened to be outside and saw him with my chicken in his mouth. I haven't lost more but haven't free ranged them sence. Which add all this rain makes their pens muck because they are in them 24/7 right now. Thanks for the advice. Pam
 
Hey lakones

You're very welcome!  If you ever need specific advice, ask away.  I promise I will try to be more brief!!

It became necessary for us to be proficient.  As people abandoned their destroyed homes, their abandoned dogs that survived became feral and wild.  They are also multiplying like crazy.

The coyote is a relative newcomer to this area.  They have no resistance to heartworms like our domestic dogs.  The LA wildlife biologists tell us that they produce one litter before they die of heartworms!  And yet, they have become the scourge they are.  This is a testament to the abundance of prey animals we are blessed with here in Louisiana.

Still, possums are the biggest problem we have down here.  Raptors not far behind.

Just don't allow your stock to become the next meal on their menu!

This is the first time I've ever seen or head of a coyote in my area. Thanks again. Pam
 
Well, I had a disaster this weekend. My outside dog got into the chicken run and killed all of my hens. I only had 4 in the run but he got them all, just for sport apparently. He didn't eat any of them. Fortunately, my 2 Icelandic chicks are still in the brooder inside. He's a good watch dog but he may be going away. I came real close to shooting him but then decided to think about it before I let my anger do something that I would regret. If I decide to get rid of him, I'll give the rescue people a chance before I put him down.

Any advice on this is welcome. Can a chicken killing dog be rehabilitated?
 
Well, I had a disaster this weekend.  My outside dog got into the chicken run and killed all of my hens.  I only had 4 in the run but he got them all, just for sport apparently.  He didn't eat any of them.  Fortunately, my 2 Icelandic chicks are still in the brooder inside.  He's a good watch dog but he may be going away.  I came real close to shooting him but then decided to think about it before I let my anger do something that I would regret.  If I decide to get rid of him, I'll give the rescue people a chance before I put him down.

Any advice on this is welcome.  Can a chicken killing dog be rehabilitated?


We rescued a senior lab last year, duck hunter his whole life. We did lots of training and he did well until the first time he killed for sport. Just one pullet. I didn't believe it was him.

It culminated in a massacre, he killed three juvies and stacked their bodies in the azalea thicket. Injured a fourth, and scattered all the rest. After that he wasn't allowed out if the chickens weren't locked up. But even with the chickens up he broke through a wall of a tractor trying to kill a pullet, and my coop was scratched from him trying to claw through the boards. We rehomed him.

If you're willing to train hard and reinforce your structures, you can probably make it work. Hot wire your runs, things like that. But unless he's a puppy I would never trust him again.
 
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