"Louisiana "La-yers" Peeps"

[mire0042]

Thank you all for the help! The eggs are bielefelders. They were relatively low in cost even shipped which was the only reason i got them. Made it here in 2 days from Ohio. They were bubble wrapped and double boxed. No cracked eggs but had dent in outer box. Unfortunately since I am still learning about incubating eggs these eggs have been in the incubator since I received them, in an automatic turner, with humidity around 30. I knew some looked wrong when candeling but didn't know why until I found detached air cell on google. So, they are now on day 10. Most have growth/movement. Took some out due to blood ring. Some have saddle air cells, some I can't really differentiate the air cell from the rest of the contents. Should I cull the ones that don't have clearly seen air cells? Or is it possible they will still make it to lockdown? I also read that assist in hatching is almost a guarantee.

Pam, unfortunately I can't buy anymore chickens or hatching eggs right now or I would have already bid in the auction for your Isbars. I know you take great care of your birds But hopefully things will turn around and my husband will find a great job soon. He has been laid-off since November and things are getting tight. I had to promise to not purchase anymore hatching eggs or chickens which my friends think is the most ridiculous thing ever.

 

[RubyNala97]

Thank you all for the help! The eggs are bielefelders. They were relatively low in cost even shipped which was the only reason i got them. Made it here in 2 days from Ohio. They were bubble wrapped and double boxed. No cracked eggs but had dent in outer box. Unfortunately since I am still learning about incubating eggs these eggs have been in the incubator since I received them, in an automatic turner, with humidity around 30. I knew some looked wrong when candeling but didn't know why until I found detached air cell on google. So, they are now on day 10. Most have growth/movement. Took some out due to blood ring. Some have saddle air cells, some I can't really differentiate the air cell from the rest of the contents. Should I cull the ones that don't have clearly seen air cells? Or is it possible they will still make it to lockdown? I also read that assist in hatching is almost a guarantee.

Pam, unfortunately I can't buy anymore chickens or hatching eggs right now or I would have already bid in the auction for your Isbars. I know you take great care of your birds But hopefully things will turn around and my husband will find a great job soon. He has been laid-off since November and things are getting tight. I had to promise to not purchase anymore hatching eggs or chickens which my friends think is the most ridiculous thing ever.

Blood rings in shipped eggs are not your standard "blood ring" due to bacteria. Most of the time, blood rings In shipped eggs are the embryo trying to attach and it can't because of the damage. Any eggs that are showing development I would keep till day 18. Then you can pull whatever eggs are clearly dead. If you're not sure and they don't smell bad then leave them. I've even had a surprise hatch in an egg I swore was dead...so it does occasionally happen. There's nothing more you can do now except hope for the best! The only advice I would give you, is around day 18/19, take a pencil or marker and trace the air cells. This way you will know if the chick pips into the air cell or if it's pipped directly into the membrane (which may need assistance). Also you can stop turning around day 16. Because of the weird (saddle) shapes of the air cells, the chick can have a hard time finding the right position. I give them an extra couple days at the end without turning, in hopes that they will get into position. I've had batches that needed assistance and ones that didn't. Please keep us posted at hatch time!

 

[Ron Skekel]

I've done lots of shipped eggs. It doesn't always matter how far they travel but how much damage they get. I let mine sit outside the incubator for 12 hours to rest. Then I set them upright in the incubator, always handling them extra gently!! I don't turn for at least 48 hours. Then I gently candle. If they are still detached you can wait another 12-24 hours. But I found that they really need to be gently turned by day 3. I gently tip them 45 degrees, 5xday. Around day 12 you can turn the turner on. If you really want them to hatch, it takes some extra work. Are the air cells totally detached (like they roll all the way) or just move around the fat end? Fresh eggs make a big difference. Fresh eggs will have tiny air cells, which will get less damage. Whereas bigger air cells will get more damage. If you can develop a relationship with the sender before hand, it's best because then you're more likely to get their freshest eggs. What breed are they?

I'm out of ovations...but thank you Turk!! you too!

to the La-yers thread. Hope you will stop by on a regular basis. We Turk too. Pam

 

[Ron Skekel]

Thank you all for the help! The eggs are bielefelders. They were relatively low in cost even shipped which was the only reason i got them. Made it here in 2 days from Ohio. They were bubble wrapped and double boxed. No cracked eggs but had dent in outer box. Unfortunately since I am still learning about incubating eggs these eggs have been in the incubator since I received them, in an automatic turner, with humidity around 30. I knew some looked wrong when candeling but didn't know why until I found detached air cell on google. So, they are now on day 10. Most have growth/movement. Took some out due to blood ring. Some have saddle air cells, some I can't really differentiate the air cell from the rest of the contents. Should I cull the ones that don't have clearly seen air cells? Or is it possible they will still make it to lockdown? I also read that assist in hatching is almost a guarantee.

Pam, unfortunately I can't buy anymore chickens or hatching eggs right now or I would have already bid in the auction for your Isbars. I know you take great care of your birds But hopefully things will turn around and my husband will find a great job soon. He has been laid-off since November and things are getting tight. I had to promise to not purchase anymore hatching eggs or chickens which my friends think is the most ridiculous thing ever.

Mire I know to people closer who have Biefelders you could have picked them up from my house. Cody has them too don't know if he sells his tho. Mine were from greenfires newest import.. Js Pam

 

[lakones]

I just read Isbars should be able to be feather sexed so I'll try to read up on it to get you a pullet. Pam

That would be excellent, Pam. You are so sweet to do that!!!

 

[lakones]

Thank you all for the help! The eggs are bielefelders. They were relatively low in cost even shipped which was the only reason i got them. Made it here in 2 days from Ohio. They were bubble wrapped and double boxed. No cracked eggs but had dent in outer box. Unfortunately since I am still learning about incubating eggs these eggs have been in the incubator since I received them, in an automatic turner, with humidity around 30. I knew some looked wrong when candeling but didn't know why until I found detached air cell on google. So, they are now on day 10. Most have growth/movement. Took some out due to blood ring. Some have saddle air cells, some I can't really differentiate the air cell from the rest of the contents. Should I cull the ones that don't have clearly seen air cells? Or is it possible they will still make it to lockdown? I also read that assist in hatching is almost a guarantee.

Pam, unfortunately I can't buy anymore chickens or hatching eggs right now or I would have already bid in the auction for your Isbars. I know you take great care of your birds But hopefully things will turn around and my husband will find a great job soon. He has been laid-off since November and things are getting tight. I had to promise to not purchase anymore hatching eggs or chickens which my friends think is the most ridiculous thing ever.

Sounds like a stressful situation there. I know nothing about hatching, but maybe things will work out better than you think. Hoping good things for you.

 

[mixedUPturk]

I've done lots of shipped eggs. It doesn't always matter how far they travel but how much damage they get. I let mine sit outside the incubator for 12 hours to rest. Then I set them upright in the incubator, always handling them extra gently!! I don't turn for at least 48 hours. Then I gently candle. If they are still detached you can wait another 12-24 hours. But I found that they really need to be gently turned by day 3. I gently tip them 45 degrees, 5xday. Around day 12 you can turn the turner on. If you really want them to hatch, it takes some extra work. Are the air cells totally detached (like they roll all the way) or just move around the fat end? Fresh eggs make a big difference. Fresh eggs will have tiny air cells, which will get less damage. Whereas bigger air cells will get more damage. If you can develop a relationship with the sender before hand, it's best because then you're more likely to get their freshest eggs. What breed are they?

I'm out of ovations...but thank you Turk!! you too!

Awe! My sweet friend!

Dont thank me for putin you to work! Thank you so much though for offering your knowledge!

Thank you all for the help! The eggs are bielefelders. They were relatively low in cost even shipped which was the only reason i got them. Made it here in 2 days from Ohio. They were bubble wrapped and double boxed. No cracked eggs but had dent in outer box. Unfortunately since I am still learning about incubating eggs these eggs have been in the incubator since I received them, in an automatic turner, with humidity around 30. I knew some looked wrong when candeling but didn't know why until I found detached air cell on google. So, they are now on day 10. Most have growth/movement. Took some out due to blood ring. Some have saddle air cells, some I can't really differentiate the air cell from the rest of the contents. Should I cull the ones that don't have clearly seen air cells? Or is it possible they will still make it to lockdown? I also read that assist in hatching is almost a guarantee.

Pam, unfortunately I can't buy anymore chickens or hatching eggs right now or I would have already bid in the auction for your Isbars. I know you take great care of your birds But hopefully things will turn around and my husband will find a great job soon. He has been laid-off since November and things are getting tight. I had to promise to not purchase anymore hatching eggs or chickens which my friends think is the most ridiculous thing ever.

Sorry i couldnt do more! I hope youll get some hatchers! Theres an awesome thread where i met Ruby in the incubation secion, Lots of different opinions, lots of topic deviation, and 10-100 posts a day depending on whos around! Theres always someone willing to help with all the finer details of incubation and they usually offer multiple options with their differing opinions.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/978237/she-said-he-said-whos-right-whos-wrong-no-one/31500_100

to the La-yers thread. Hope you will stop by on a regular basis. We Turk too. Pam

Awe! Mrs Pam! you too!! ! I know so few here hatch shipped, since we have such a Fantastic Breeder right there, in the south (dont second guess it, i mean You ma'am!)

 

[mire0042]

Mire I know to people closer who have Biefelders you could have picked them up from my house. Cody has them too don't know if he sells his tho. Mine were from greenfires newest import.. Js Pam

Pam, you know what they say about a lesson learned the hard way...

Sounds like a stressful situation there. I know nothing about hatching, but maybe things will work out better than you think. Hoping good things for you.

Thanks, and I will keep all of you updated

 

[mire0042]

These are my white bresse

These are my BBS bresse

And this is my crested cream legbar

 

[Ron Skekel]

That would be excellent, Pam. You are so sweet to do that!!!

No problem. Pam