[COLOR=333333]I did more research and other info from others I have gotten I am going to just do shavings,I have not trees on my property thus little to no leaves just what blows from other properties and I use them for my compost.... my roosts are going to be set up ladder style with a removable tarp hung under so it can be taken out scraped off/cleaned. Thought my wife was going to kill me when she got home the other night, I ripped one coop wall down and expanded it so now it is a 12 ft x 8 ft. needed some storage room and area if I need to section off a hen for health or other reasons[/COLOR]
I think you'll love the tarp under the roost. I did that this winter & was able to pull the whole thing out folded like a taco. Fastest coop cleaning evah!

Last fall, I went door to door asking for leaves. Hit the jack pot with one yard. A little old lady lived there, and was paying someone to rake and bag her leaves. Evidently, other folks had taken them away from her yard after bagging (most likely for the same purpose) but, I was the first one to show up, so I told her I'd take them all. I was hauling leaves into November, and the last 3 loads were heavy and wet. They were packed in contractor bags. About 100 bags! I had to ration the dry ones through the winter. But they made all the difference in my coop for DL w/o ammonia smell compared to trying DL with shavings.
The way I look at it, I'd much rather spend a couple of days hauling bags of leaves than spending money on shavings. Hubby looked at me like I had 2 heads when I got sick, and asked him to help me fulfill my obligation to that sweet little lady. Then, I explained to him that each bag would displace the same volume of shavings, which sell for around $6/bale. The light went on, and we got the job finished!!!
Did the wet ones mold?
I explained the same leaf to shavings principal to DH when I asked for a lawn sweeper. Now I sweep the neighbors lawns too.
been a bad week, lost one chicken to a truck bumper--he never stopped,
then one to a owl a day later,
THEN as i was sitting outside, my dog lifts it head and sniffs, hackles rising, and stops, staring at one spot,,i look and look, and theres a big ol red fox sitting there watching the chickens,
i get up to get my gun, poof gone,,,it takes off,
then i walk out to the mailbox, a pile of feathers,,it was "stay at home jenny" the one chicken that stays home and doesn't wander, fox tracks,,dang it,,
go back out onto the porch, reading the mail, and the dog tears off the deck charging behind me,--another fox, orange black and white,,,running off with another chicken,
this is in daylight,,,
I'm down to two, there in there coop and within the 6x6 cage
I'm so sorry for your losses. We had a fox attack last week. My neighbors were chatting to the girls when a fox tore out of the brush, grabbed a hen & started to run. The neighbor hollered at the fox and amazingly it dropped the hen. She lost some feathers but not hurt. I saw the same fox an hour later staring at my run. Everybody has been on lockdown ever since and they are not happy! Got some pics of the fox on the game cam Sunday about 4:00 pm right next to the run.