"Making" Bantams?

[Kev]

Crosses to (other) bantams to develop bantam lines probably are far more common. There are several dwarf mutant genes which help in reducing the sizes, so it often would be far more useful and easier to do outcrosses to introduce those dwarfing genes.

 

[Henk69]

Some dwarfing genes are sexlinked.

Use a bantam cockerel to get small hens.

 

[conny63malies]

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Add the d'uccles ,serama and dutch bantam to the list. all true banties.

 

[nzpouter]

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I have always gone the other way..... going by logic, smaller egg=smaller chicks=smaller chickens.....

 

[Henk69]

Of course there are also non sexlinked bantamizing genes but the sexlinkeds are not to be underestimated.

Use a bantam rooster and the daughters are already up to speed at the sexlinked bantam genes.

The same applies when you want to make large fowl from bantams.
Use a large size cockerel if possible.

 

[becky3086]

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I have always gone the other way..... going by logic, smaller egg=smaller chicks=smaller chickens.....

You would think so but I recently got some eggs that were three different sized, banty, a little larger and large. They were all fertilized by a barred rock roo. Today- a month or so later, you would not be able to tell which ones came from the bantam eggs, they are all the same size.

 

[blackdotte]

The bantamizing gene is sex linked, so you get smaller birds by a bantam male X large hen than the other way around.
Although chick size at birth is related to egg size, there is very little difference (in the same breed) at maturity. A 40grm pullet egg & a 70grm hen egg will produce the same sized fowl.
David

 

[wclawrence]

I would have to say the sexlinked genes are where it is all at.

 

[Blisschick]

Pekin = Cochin in the UK.

I hate to break it to the person who wrote the article, but Cochins do have a LF counterpart.

 

[blackdotte]

Cochins are a large fowl &,except in the USA, they have no bantam version. Pekin bantams, which are called Cochin bantams in the USA,have no large fowl equivalent.
Just a difference in terminology between the USA and the rest of the World.