~MALAYSIAN SERAMA THREAD~ (PICS!!!)

[DragonEggs]

I have a question about silkie and frizzle seramas....

Seems some people think the seramas were crossed with silkies to produce silkied seramas but from my understanding this isn't true, that it's a natural mutation happening more and more often in seramas. Is the same true for frizzles? Was this a natural mutation or were they crossed with something to be frizzled?

 

[Skyesrocket]

frizzle seramas

I'm glad you asked. I have been wondering about the frizzle seramas. Is there a frizzle gene?​

 

[Gordonhillfarm]

I'm very currious also . I have a friend that actually has been introduceing the silkie gene into his seramas . He breeds the smallest silkie hen to a serama roo then breeds the pullets back to him . I don't know if others do I just know thats how he has gotten silk in his line of seramas . I'm not so brazin yet . I'm still trying to get type right . Although I sure do like the looks of silkie and frizzle seramas . I think BluegrassSeramas knows more about frizzle gene , I read her signature line , it says ( Original home of the Frizzled Serama ). I'm glad you asked also .

 

[briarpatchfarms]

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But thats the thing you dont need Silkies to makes Silkied Seramas all you need to do is line breed or a silkied Serama(not crossed), its in there naturally! People think that they have to outcross and they dont this is just setting you back ten years+ behind us! There is a Frizzled gene that BlueGrass Seramas has worked up and worked with, to be honest they are up their with the smooths and passed the booted and silkied.

 

[abbey2140]

We have a sebright like that. She has a Cochin hubby and when he goes to fair she is all upset looking and just not herself. BTW she hid some eggs very well......under the pole barn. I went out to feed one morning and we had extras lol. They are really turning out awesome looking.

 

[friedeggs]

Msbear~

Oh I can't wait to see what Cocoa produces! Send me pics!

 

[Msbear]

I was all excited to hatch two... And, they both have feathered feet

Turns out my rosecomb won't breed her but, my mille boy will. He hasn't been near her in weeks so, I have high hopes for the rest in the bator. One rosecomb cross did hatch but later died. It was a dark liver color. The little gal is a hog! She races up and scarfs down all the snacks before any of the broodies and their broods can get some

 

[reesepoultry]

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Wow, I love the coloring on that second hen and the first two roosters! Beautiful!

Also, two counts of good news on the serama topic:

1. Splash, one of my hens, is seriously broody again and sitting on quite a few eggs! They're all developing quite well. So exciting!

2. It appears that of my four chicks I currently have, it seems that only one is a rooster and the other three are hens.

No guarantees, but that's how it looks so far!

Yay, my tiny-scale serama breeding operation is finally getting some growth!

Thanks, I know. the lady I got them from called the pair "Rocky Road" for the coloring. I have about 30 Serama. They keep laying so many eggs I keep hatching. I don't sell serama eggs because it's too hard t get them to hatch after shipping. I would feel like i would be taking someones money for selling the eggs.

 

[catwalk]

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Bluegrass Seramas is most well-known for introducing the Frizzle gene to Seramas, but I beleive that Steve Wheat did it more recently. Somebody check my facts, because he's better known for his Silkies and Cochins.......

 

[High Roost Ranch]

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Bluegrass Seramas is most well-known for introducing the Frizzle gene to Seramas, but I beleive that Steve Wheat did it more recently. Somebody check my facts, because he's better known for his Silkies and Cochins.......

Back in 2003 or so (give or take a year either way) Brad and Teresa Williford (Carolinas somewhere) were working on Frizzled Seramas. So I think credit would have to go to the Willifords in this case. They did it by introducing the frizzled gene to Japs and from there to Seramas if I remember correctly what Brad told me. The Willifords were part of the ORIGINAL SCNA group, but left SCNA many years ago because they were dissatisfied with various things within SCNA, the foremost being the reluctance to turn it over to a governing body. For those newbies at SCNA who weren't around in the beginning, the "power couple" that Jerry refers to, is Brad and Teresa Williford, the originators, to the best of my knowledge, of the frizzled gene in seramas today. Glenda Heywood played a part in advising them as well. During this time period, the idea of a frizzled serama didn't take so to speak publically and they were just kept locked in the closet if you will. Recently they have made a revival again. There have been others in between the originals and now that have been getting frizzled seramas in their breeding programs. I can think of 4 right off the top of my head. So BlueGrass can be credited with the revival of the Frizzleds, but unfortunately original credit is due to another several years back.

The silkied gene, as best as anyone can tell, was infused into the genetics early on in the creation of the serama. It isn't recent. It is a gene frowned upon in Malaysia. I believe it is naturally occurring and the SILKIE bantam as we have here in the USA was NOT used in creating the silkied serama. I remember when it started popping up all of a sudden, and those birds had zero silkie bantam characteristics in them, not something that could have been bred out in just a couple of generations after their arrival to the USA.