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Malek and new chicks

kraftykrow

Songster
5 Years
Apr 24, 2019
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So I have three hens as backyard chickens. I'm pretty sure one is down with Malek and unfortunately did not have the means to separate her until today. She's been going downhill since about a week and a half. I think it is pretty impossible the other two will be carrying it now. It's not my first run with possible Malek. I had some barred rocks that I believe had it. One survived it for over a year while two died within a month of each other. However I'm not convinced they were well bred. One had deformed feet, another had pretty sickly colors when she showed up. They were all already 3 months old when I got them. The barred rocks died the day after acting lethargic and would not eat or drink at all. This one still eats and drinks but I have to put the stuff right in front of her. Her wings and feet still have full range of motion, as do her wings and I can't find anything on her body. She fights me still trying to move her so she isn't paralyzed. Regardless, if she doesn't recover soon, I may have to euthanize her. The vets that used to do chickens in my town have all left recently (weird), so I'd have to find someone who would do the euthanasia... But I have two questions.

1. If new chicks would be added after 3-4 months separated from the two likely carriers I'd have left and the chicks are vaccinated for Malek, how likely are the new birds to catch it if the other two are infected but not showing symptoms (if they survive til winter)? I see where birds can carry it all their lives, does that mean every single day the new ones are in danger of catching it even if they are vaccinated?
2. What chicks can be 100% guaranteed female? I've had bad luck getting chicks cause they seem to always turn out to be roosters and you can't have them in town. Tired of putting in the work to have to give them away after raising them.
3. I've heard there are breeds more resistant to Malek, but web searches seem to contradict each other. Anyone have experience with a breed that doesn't seem to catch it as often.

I hate leaving one hen alone if another one dies. It might not even show signs for another year. Sad to leave a chicken alone that long. That's why I'd want to add new ones, but also do chicks this time to give the other two time to see if they get sick too.

Thank you for any advice and help.
 
Do you mean Mareks? If one bird has it, they all do, especially if she wasn't separated right after showing symptoms
Yes Marek, sorry. Phone wants to autocorrect it to whatever it thinks "Maleks" is.

Can the others survive even if they're carriers? Can I never add more hens even if they never show signs or don't until next year? If I get vaccinated chicks and raise them inside for 3/4 months, would it ever be safe to add them?

I feel awful we couldn't separate her sooner, but I guess being a second year chickener, I'm learning. Just sucks it may costs lives...

Black Death is still alive. She eats and drinks if you put the stuff in front of her, but is she living in pain? Is it more humane to put her to sleep? All her limbs work, she just can't seem to put weight on her legs.
 
Dontnfeel bad about not seperatingnher, she probably passed it on before you could tell something was up. Hens and roosters possibly can survive, plenty of people breed for resistance in their flocks. Vaccinated birds kept completely seperate for over 2 weeks would still technically catch it and could pass it on, but they will for the most part be protected against the worst symptoms
 
Dontnfeel bad about not seperatingnher, she probably passed it on before you could tell something was up. Hens and roosters possibly can survive, plenty of people breed for resistance in their flocks. Vaccinated birds kept completely seperate for over 2 weeks would still technically catch it and could pass it on, but they will for the most part be protected against the worst symptoms
Dontnfeel bad about not seperatingnher, she probably passed it on before you could tell something was up. Hens and roosters possibly can survive, plenty of people breed for resistance in their flocks. Vaccinated birds kept completely seperate for over 2 weeks would still technically catch it and could pass it on, but they will for the most part be protected against the worst symptoms
I'm 90% sure they were vaccinated as chicks from the hatchery I got them from. I can't find the receipt though. They were already pullets when I got them and I've had them for a out 9 months. I do not know what to change to help them. And I want to add two more come fall (raised from chicks this time) but I'm afraid I'm just gonna keep infecting and killing birds. Idk to wait to see if anyone else gets it or dies or what. They could apparently carry it for years and not die.

Also am I to euthanize the sick one. She eats and waddles her way into the sun. Am I prolonging her suffering?

If the other birds already have it is there any point separating her now?
 

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