Mama Heating Pad in the Brooder (Picture Heavy) - UPDATE

@Blooie ! "Teach themselves how to be chickens"....that is perhaps the most remarkable aspect of this chicken journey, that even without a Mama, if provided the right conditions, they just go for it..this morning I found two of them practicing perching on their roost, for which they got many praises and some carrot trimmings!
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It was SO cute...they are teaching me new things every day, I mean it, there is something new like that!

That is what I found with my 12 June 2012 girls. They had no mentors and just had to figure it out. They naturally scratch at the ground, they naturally dust bath, they naturally eat pretty much any bug (don't like wooly bear caterpillars) and some of them naturally try to hatch pine shavings
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Paying my dues
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22 total, some are under mama. Have one that likes to peck toes, even pulls at them, one little gal was screaming
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Ugh.

Time to change your signature. Besides the count, I see a WHOLE lot of EE chicks in with that one BO.
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So true. I worried about the 2012 chicks. I let Zorra worry about the 2015 chicks. She did a much better job raising chicks than I did.

Tell me, how old do your kids have to be before you quit worrying about them? Kenny and Jenny are both in their 40s....is it time yet?

Um, until you are dead ... and maybe even then when you have a "bird's eye view"
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@bruceha2000 Yes, there is lots of ventilation. Two huge windows in the front (with both screen and hardware cloth), as well as a vent all along the top, back wall and a louvered fan for the really bad days, My husband wanted the big waterer and feeder. I tried to convince him they didn't need it, but you know men...bigger is better. ;) I'll have to see about putting the feeder and water up a little bit off the shavings. Do you think bricks would do the trick? I do have marbles weighing them down.

@KDOGG331 Thanks! We love the coop too. We actually ordered it from a Mennonite company up in Georgia and they built and delivered it to us. It's 5x8 with 8 nesting boxes and great ventilation. Being in Florida, that was a huge concern for us and with what they charged, we couldn't have built it for that (nor would it have looked nearly as nice). speciall

The bigger waterer is really meant for the coop when they are adults. You can still use it, especially since you have a good size space. It is just that the smaller ones are easier to deal with when the chicks are small. You can use bricks or a paver stone. For a while they will need it to stick out under the edge of the waterer or they won't be able to reach that high.

Out of curiosity, how many chickens did they say you can put in that 40 sq ft coop?

ABSOLUTE minimum is 2 sq ft of floor space (that is USABLE floor space, not space before the food and water and whatever is put in) and only if the birds are pretty much never in there except at night. Near as I can tell the 5' dimension includes the external nest boxes so they don't count. 4x8 = 32 sq ft = 16 birds ASSUMING there is 18" above every square inch of that floor. Not real practical if you have food and water in the coop.

15 in there is going to be a real squeeze.

I need to ask you guys to field questions again for me for a day or so. Just can't focus. Thanks.

Private Bruce reporting for duty MA'AM! (a bit late I guess, sorry, I was cleaning the mess hall floor with a toothbrush per your orders)
First night out in coop and run four days ago, at 3.5 weeks old, first night they put themselves to bed by the time I went out at twilight to close the pop door. Yep, up that big ladder all by themselves. I was shocked, but the food and water and MHP are n the coop so they went in without any direction from me. i was worried too but I am learning that they figure it out and move as a flock...all six of them follow in and out. No one stays by themselves in coop or run. If they did, at this point I would do a health check on that one. They are definitely a flock now, never very far from each other.

My 2012 chicks were like that the first year. Never went anywhere without the rest other than to a nest box. Then they got more brave (or stupid?) and would be all over the place sometimes in groups sometimes alone. Good way to become fox food.

The 2015 chicks stuck together like glue after Zorra kicked them to the curb at 2 months but by the time they were 5 or so months old could be found pretty much anywhere in smaller groups and now with any of the older girls. But I did find Yuki out in the front yard near the road yesterday when all the other girls were out back. Makes me nervous!!

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The light thing is just like the MHP thing, as close to natural as we can make it. My girls have no idea how to work a light switch, natural dawn and dusk light, dark at night is best. If it is pretty dark in their brooder room you could turn on a light during the day but that shouldn't be necessary if there is any natural light coming in a window.

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Just peachy wonderful. I won't be breathing until I see them pull up here.

Can you do me a favor Blooie? PLEASE start breathing now and continue doing so after they arrive home!!
 
Yeah, I only have 8 and pretty big breeds and I am planning on going by the 4 sq ft per bird rule in which case only 8 would fit in the 4x8 coop. I may be able to squeeze a few more in but I had thought 2 sq ft was pretty crammed and more commercial standards? Heard a lot say 4 is the absolute minimum but around here, like on Craigslist and stuff, it seems most go by less. I think even 8 or 12 would be a squeeze if you have large chickens. Although I am planning on putting my coop off the ground and food and water outside the coop.
 
@bruceha2000 Yes, there is lots of ventilation. Two huge windows in the front (with both screen and hardware cloth), as well as a vent all along the top, back wall and a louvered fan for the really bad days, My husband wanted the big waterer and feeder. I tried to convince him they didn't need it, but you know men...bigger is better. ;) I'll have to see about putting the feeder and water up a little bit off the shavings. Do you think bricks would do the trick? I do have marbles weighing them down. @COChix of course! :) Can't wait to get pics of the littles when they arrive. @KDOGG331 Thanks! We love the coop too. We actually ordered it from a Mennonite company up in Georgia and they built and delivered it to us. It's 5x8 with 8 nesting boxes and great ventilation. Being in Florida, that was a huge concern for us and with what they charged, we couldn't have built it for that (nor would it have looked nearly as nice).
That sounds awesome!!!! May have to try building something similar
 
@Blooie Here is my payment. I took what you said and changed my mind. I used some cloth, some chicken wire, some duct tape and a sunbeam heating pad and made my brooder. It is not high like before, and maybe as the girls get older I will move it up to my original idea, which was 4 inches, not 7 like I originally tought. I tried to take a picture of the babies inside, but they are tucked way back getting warm. It was quite chilly here for the shipping. They are loving it. They are completely quiet and all I hear is a little tiny happy chirps. ere is the pic, wish it had chickies in it!!!!


BTW, none of them can be hurt, The pink, crazy tape is covering every sharp corner. SO HAPPY!!!!
 
@bruceha2000 Ha! Yes definitely have to change my signature ;) I'm not sure which birds i will end up with and which ones my mom will have. What we ORDERED was 5 BO's (all females, the rest are under MHP), 5 Speckled Sussex (females), 2 Silver Laced Wyandottes (females), and a straight run of Wellsummers...but you think they are EE's? Do those breeds look a like? I'd be okay with EE's, since Blooie peaked my interest last week with her pretty birds :D But, my mom might not be as pleased :eek:
 
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ABSOLUTE minimum is 2 sq ft of floor space (that is USABLE floor space, not space before the food and water and whatever is put in) and only if the birds are pretty much never in there except at night. Near as I can tell the 5' dimension includes the external nest boxes so they don't count. 4x8 = 32 sq ft = 16 birds ASSUMING there is 18" above every square inch of that floor. Not real practical if you have food and water in the coop.

So you are saying that in my 4'x8' coop (32sq ft usable floor space) with external nesting boxes I can have 16 chickens?!? YIPPEE! I have 7 in there now with 5 chicks coming in a week. I thought for some reason 12 was my max and only ordered 5 this spring. Now I can get 4 more from the feed store once the first group are in the grow out pen/coop. My husband isn't going to be happy but HEY! Its chicken math!
 
@Pattycat I'll happily accept your partial payment and wait for the rest - contrary to popular belief, I can be patient. When I have to. I guess.
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Thanks! They love it so much! It was 30 degrees this morning when I picked them up from the post office and they were so happy to have the warmth. I have a problem with chicken math though. You would think after all this time I would be good at it, but I am not so I have to work on that. I need a bigger brooder already!!!! I have such strong little Wyandottes.
 

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