Marans - SOP discussion thread

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I'm not Ed, but I was told over the weekend, I think from someone who attended his talk, I got stuck at the Marans table 8-(, that the feathers should just overlap each other down the leg to the toe. Not stick out really. Hopefully
ed will chime in.

I attended Ed's talk - and learned volumes, however, I'm still confused about the shank feathering. He complained that it was "too sparse" on all the birds he demonstrated with and some of them had a very nice, overlapping line.
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So I too hope he will tell us more.
 
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I'm not Ed, but I was told over the weekend, I think from someone who attended his talk, I got stuck at the Marans table 8-(, that the feathers should just overlap each other down the leg to the toe. Not stick out really. Hopefully
ed will chime in.

I attended Ed's talk - and learned volumes, however, I'm still confused about the shank feathering. He complained that it was "too sparse" on all the birds he demonstrated with and some of them had a very nice, overlapping line.
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So I too hope he will tell us more.

What I did not like was the patches of feathers.

They should be feathered like a Langshan.
 
Alright, here are Langshans - I just found this by Googling):

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To me, they appear to have the amount of feathering depicted in the two pictures posted previously in this thread.

I've found another, THIS depiction shows much heavier shank feathering, and if I'm remembering, THIS is the SOP pic, but I could be wrong:

Langshan_Black1.jpg


Thoughts?
 
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I checked out my SOP and it looks like your second picture matches close to the one in the SOP. A friend of mine raises Langshan- might need to go look at her birds
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Hens, maybe you could get some good, CLOSE-UP pics for us?
 
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I checked out my SOP and it looks like your second picture matches close to the one in the SOP. A friend of mine raises Langshan- might need to go look at her birds
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Hens, maybe you could get some good, CLOSE-UP pics for us?

I'll see what I can do!
 
Here are some examples of the CARNATION COMB. This comb is the standard for the Penedesenca breed, it is a Disqualifying Fault in the Marans, and should be culled from the flock! Roosters and hens can be both carriers and both can express (physically show) this comb. Here are a few examples of my birds with this problem. All will be retired to the stew pot!

Here is a young cockerel at about 5 1/2 weeks of age, already showing the Carnation at the end of the blade (back end of comb)

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Here are a few pics of a 7 1/2 month old cockerel, pics taken 6 days ago. (Black Copper on the left in the first pic) This one has what I refer to as a "double dose" of the carnation genes. It ain't pretty! Also, notice the feather shafting on his breast! These 2 things usually go hand in hand.

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Here is a lesser version of the carnation comb. It may be hard to see in the pic as it is fuzzy. Look at the end of the comb, see the little "crown"??

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Different pic angle, same cock

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Hope this helps in showing what a Carnation Comb is. This is a widespread problem within the breed! Check your cockerels and pullets for it. In cockerels, you will start to see it form at about 4-5 weeks of age. In pullets, it takes longer to spot due to their combs being much smaller. Around 12-14 weeks would be a good time to check them seriously.
 
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